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Old 10-12-2009, 01:43 AM
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There is no logic for putting Tiago at 20-1 and Colonel John at 33-1. Tiago doesn't want to run anymore.
They must have some earlier liability into Tiago or something.

I realize his trainer is incredible at pointing horses to fire their best on the biggest day .. but Tiago really should be 200/1.
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Old 10-12-2009, 08:51 AM
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4/5 on a horse that isn't coming? Does he know something that we don't?

Also 1/1 on Zensational is absolutely ridiculous.
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Old 10-12-2009, 09:17 AM
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"BC Classic: 4-5 Sea The Stars, 9-4 Rip Van Winkle, 5-1 Zenyatta, 7-1 Summer Bird,10-1 Mastercraftsman, 14-1 Gio Ponti, Gitano Hernando, Quality Road, Richards Kid,16-1 Rail Trip, 20-1 Bullsbay, Einstein, Mine That Bird, Tiago, 25-1 Macho Again, 33-1 Colonel John "

World Sports Exchange (wsex.com) has Sea The Stars at 3-1 and Rip Van Winkle at 5-2. The rest are worse than the William Hill odds. WSEX's future odds are seldom competitive with TheGreek, Pinnacle or 5Dimes.

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Old 10-12-2009, 11:51 AM
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http://www.racingpost.com/news/horse...1912/standard/
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Old 10-12-2009, 11:56 AM
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He has done enough as well
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Old 10-12-2009, 11:57 AM
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This is the page you need.

http://www.oddschecker.com/horse-rac.../breeders-cup/
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Old 10-12-2009, 12:29 PM
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I see lots of injured horses in there.
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Old 10-12-2009, 02:57 PM
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They must have some earlier liability into Tiago or something.

I realize his trainer is incredible at pointing horses to fire their best on the biggest day .. but Tiago really should be 200/1.
.......i am bummed, i used tiago with the winner( just a lucky gut feel ) and co. john
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Old 10-13-2009, 07:41 PM
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They must have some earlier liability into Tiago or something.

I realize his trainer is incredible at pointing horses to fire their best on the biggest day .. but Tiago really should be 200/1.
a noted local clocker picked Tiago to win his last start based on what he's been seeing int the AM. Maybe he just need a race???????????
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Old 10-22-2009, 12:12 PM
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TheGreek.com now has odds up for most of the races. Here's what they have for the Classic:

3101 Rip Van Winkle +245
3102 Zenyatta +625
3103 Summer Bird +805
3104 Mastercraftsman +1015
3105 Quality Road +1415
3106 Gio Ponti +1415
3109 Richards Kid +2050
3111 Einstein +1215
3113 Mine That Bird +2550
3114 Macho Again
3115 Colonel John +2250
3116 Tiago +2550
3117 Well Armed +2550
3118 Bullsbay +3550

"+245" is 2.45 to 1, etc.

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Old 10-22-2009, 12:26 PM
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Already bet Colonel John at 22.5 to 1 yesterday. He'll be half that or better in the gate.
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Old 10-22-2009, 01:34 PM
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Already bet Colonel John at 22.5 to 1 yesterday. He'll be half that or better in the gate.
I wouldn't mind him in the turf Mile. No thanks in the Classic, at almost any price.
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Old 10-22-2009, 01:34 PM
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I wouldn't mind him in the turf Mile. No thanks in the Classic, at almost any price.
To each his own
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Old 10-22-2009, 01:46 PM
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Yep, and you are probably right about the value as well.
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Old 10-22-2009, 02:42 PM
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Already bet Colonel John at 22.5 to 1 yesterday. He'll be half that or better in the gate.

UGH.
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Old 10-22-2009, 03:42 PM
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I may be drunk (actually I am) but I thought Quality Road was running in the dirt mile. No?
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