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Old 10-11-2009, 04:18 PM
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But the statement does pressure Obama not to use force in the theater that counts the most, namely the Iranian nuclear build-up. So, from the Leftist Norwegian point of view, it’s a twofer — bash Bush and handcuff Obama
Obama's long-stated ideas about nuclear arms buildup were a good part of what got him elected, I suspect - the contrast to Bush - and I doubt those ideas will change - based upon the Nobel? LOL - unless the world situation changes markedly.

Obviously Obama hasn't done anything to earn the Peace Nobel yet, except be just what the Nobel committee said: the representative of a United States people that clearly cast out eight years of aggressive military and national solitarianism and isolationism, the starter of two wars, the nose thumbing at Koyoto and the United Nations, in favor of returning to the world stage as a participant. It's a vote of confidence from Europe. They've suffered through the last eight years of American foreign policy, too.
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Old 10-11-2009, 05:18 PM
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Obama's long-stated ideas about nuclear arms buildup were a good part of what got him elected, I suspect - the contrast to Bush - and I doubt those ideas will change - based upon the Nobel? LOL - unless the world situation changes markedly.

Obviously Obama hasn't done anything to earn the Peace Nobel yet, except be just what the Nobel committee said: the representative of a United States people that clearly cast out eight years of aggressive military and national solitarianism and isolationism, the starter of two wars, the nose thumbing at Koyoto and the United Nations, in favor of returning to the world stage as a participant. It's a vote of confidence from Europe. They've suffered through the last eight years of American foreign policy, too.
Cry me a river.....Both Kyoto and UN are broken mechanisms. We don't need a vote of confidence from Europe....We're the one's always bailing their asses out!
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Old 10-11-2009, 07:42 PM
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Cry me a river.....Both Kyoto and UN are broken mechanisms. We don't need a vote of confidence from Europe....We're the one's always bailing their asses out!
Yeah, there's only dead Americans in Iraq.
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Old 10-11-2009, 08:22 PM
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Yeah, there's only dead Americans in Iraq.
Please choose.
We are isolationist country that started two wars

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The EU and the UN are our partners in the wars



You cant be both
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Old 10-11-2009, 08:56 PM
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Please choose.
We are isolationist country that started two wars

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The EU and the UN are our partners in the wars

You cant be both

Huh? I'm not the one trying to straddle that fence. Thanks for reiterating my point

I think the next thing the far right ultra-con crazies have to screech about is what Obama is going to do with the $1.4 million he recieved from the Nobel committee, that he is going to give to charity. No way he'll win with this.

If he gives it to international charities, he will be crucified for putting aid to foreign needs above starving Americans (you know, like folks still homeless from Katrina ...)

If any international charity recipient does work in Africa or a Muslim country, I think Rush Limbaugh may physically, actually explode, and the birthers will say, "I told you so".

If Obama divvies it up to American domestic charities, he can be pilliored for violating and insulting the world-wide, international scope of the Nobel award.

And any American charity recipients, of course, will be tied, by six degrees Kevin Bacon, to Acorn.
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Old 10-12-2009, 11:18 PM
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Huh? I'm not the one trying to straddle that fence. Thanks for reiterating my point

I think the next thing the far right ultra-con crazies have to screech about is what Obama is going to do with the $1.4 million he recieved from the Nobel committee, that he is going to give to charity. No way he'll win with this.

If he gives it to international charities, he will be crucified for putting aid to foreign needs above starving Americans (you know, like folks still homeless from Katrina ...)

If any international charity recipient does work in Africa or a Muslim country, I think Rush Limbaugh may physically, actually explode, and the birthers will say, "I told you so".

If Obama divvies it up to American domestic charities, he can be pilliored for violating and insulting the world-wide, international scope of the Nobel award.

And any American charity recipients, of course, will be tied, by six degrees Kevin Bacon, to Acorn.
I just dont understand w=where you come up with this stuff? How does that question which is a legit question. You can be partners in an international coalition AND an isolationist country. But somehow I have made your point for you? By asking a question? Arent there rules on a sitting President taking money or gifts? Just asking.
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Old 10-11-2009, 09:16 PM
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Yeah, there's only dead Americans in Iraq.
Yeah, and all the world squeaked until the US stepped in.....
Funny how the meece try to bully us into capitulating to their judgement, but we have Mr Appeaser ready to accomodate those timid souls who don't have the heuvos to start their own fight. What about the 2 million purged in Iraq?
I don't hear you whining about them!
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Old 10-12-2009, 12:08 PM
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Cry me a river.....Both Kyoto and UN are broken mechanisms. We don't need a vote of confidence from Europe....We're the one's always bailing their asses out!

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Yeah, there's only dead Americans in Iraq.

Originally Posted by timmgirvan
Yeah, and all the world squeaked until the US stepped in.....
Funny how the meece try to bully us into capitulating to their judgement, but we have Mr Appeaser ready to accomodate those timid souls who don't have the heuvos to start their own fight. What about the 2 million purged in Iraq?
I don't hear you whining about them!
I was speaking of the dead of our supporting allies in Iraq.

I assume you don't think we need allies in the world?
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I was speaking of the dead of our supporting allies in Iraq.

I assume you don't think we need allies in the world?
Just for chuckles, why don't you add up the decades of support that the US has given to almost every country on earth, and then weigh it against the condemnation we receive from the impotent UN, and every other mouse that has it's mouth yapping and hand out for aid! Its a sickening thought!
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Old 10-12-2009, 04:44 PM
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Just for chuckles, why don't you add up the decades of support that the US has given to almost every country on earth, and then weigh it against the condemnation we receive from the impotent UN, and every other mouse that has it's mouth yapping and hand out for aid! Its a sickening thought!
Yeah, we're the big dog. So what? No dispute there.

"Sickening"?? Clearly your attitude is, screw everyone else in the world, friends and allies included.

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