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Old 10-10-2009, 07:11 PM
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HOORAY FOR A SYNTHETIC CLASSIC THIS YEAR!!!!!


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Old 10-10-2009, 07:17 PM
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Didn't Fallon mention that the horse broke the track record over there? (Either last out or the other poly race.) He must be a real plug, then.
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Old 10-10-2009, 07:17 PM
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Didn't Fallon mention that the horse broke the track record over there? (Either last out or the other poly race.) He must be a real plug, then.
He was supposed to be a decent threat in the Belmont but was injured...
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Old 10-10-2009, 07:22 PM
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He was supposed to be a decent threat in the Belmont but was injured...
The Belmont isn't run on a simulated turf course.
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Old 10-10-2009, 07:27 PM
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Its the lasix.
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Old 10-10-2009, 07:19 PM
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Didn't Fallon mention that the horse broke the track record over there? (Either last out or the other poly race.) He must be a real plug, then.
Hooray for the wipe out winner Gitmo
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Old 10-10-2009, 07:21 PM
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Mine That Bird

Too far back?

Not enough whipping from Borel?

No slop?

No good?
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Old 10-10-2009, 07:27 PM
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Mine That Bird

Too far back?

Not enough whipping from Borel?

No slop?

No good?
Look at his BC Juvy race and today's race. Do you think he likes the Santa Anita surface?
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Old 10-10-2009, 07:28 PM
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Look at his BC Juvy race and today's race. Do you think he likes the Santa Anita surface?
But see that was before Wooley. Mandella? Who's that?
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Old 10-10-2009, 07:30 PM
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But see that was before Wooley. Mandella? Who's that?
I'm not making excuses for the horse, but I expected exactly what we got out of him today.

I would have been as shocked as I was when he won the Derby, had he won today.

That said, I didn't play the race, so I should just shut up about it.
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Old 10-10-2009, 07:53 PM
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Didn't Fallon mention that the horse broke the track record over there? (Either last out or the other poly race.) He must be a real plug, then.

Jerry Bailey mentioned on ESPN that Sea of Stars is 10 lengths better than him. I hope Sea of Star's connections watched the Goodwood.

Gosh, if Zenyatta doesn't go in the Classic, what American horse would stand a chance (I don't think Einstein is good enough and Summer Bird has no synthetic form).
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Old 10-10-2009, 07:59 PM
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I want Sea The Stars to come over so I can bet on like the precieved 3rd or 4th best Euro shipper in the race.

I'm hoping one or two big names from there will really help inflate the prices of the less desireables
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Old 10-10-2009, 08:05 PM
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I want Sea The Stars to come over so I can bet on like the precieved 3rd or 4th best Euro shipper in the race.

I'm hoping one or two big names from there will really help inflate the prices of the less desireables
You worked that angle to perfection in the BC Marathon last year.
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Old 10-10-2009, 08:10 PM
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Jerry Bailey mentioned on ESPN that Sea of Stars is 10 lengths better than him. I hope Sea of Star's connections watched the Goodwood.

Gosh, if Zenyatta doesn't go in the Classic, what American horse would stand a chance (I don't think Einstein is good enough and Summer Bird has no synthetic form).
If Zenyatta is only 1 length better than Lethal Heat, I don't think she's going to have any chance in the Classic (although I do like Lethal Heat).
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Old 10-10-2009, 08:12 PM
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If Zenyatta is only 1 length better than Lethal Heat, I don't think she's going to have any chance in the Classic (although I do like Lethal Heat).
How can you make such a silly statement? You cant judge margins on this stuff, it plays akin to turf where the finishes are rarely spread out....its part of the reason why Beyer figures are useless comparing horses on this stuff.
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Old 10-10-2009, 08:27 PM
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How can you make such a silly statement? You cant judge margins on this stuff, it plays akin to turf where the finishes are rarely spread out....its part of the reason why Beyer figures are useless comparing horses on this stuff.
They've faced each other twice, and she's only beaten her by about that margin twice.

If Lethal Heat was that much worse, she'd have finished 4th or 5th, but she was 2nd by about 1 length again in a G1 race, which legitimatizes her race at Del Mar in my view.
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Old 10-10-2009, 08:32 PM
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If Zenyatta is only 1 length better than Lethal Heat, I don't think she's going to have any chance in the Classic (although I do like Lethal Heat).
Its kind of funny, cuz ironically, Lethal Heat has a very good record running against males (and that includes graded company).
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Old 10-10-2009, 08:36 PM
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Its kind of funny, cuz ironically, Lethal Heat has a very good record running against males (and that includes graded company).
It looked to me like Zenyatta only ran hard for a few strides. I think the margin is misleading.
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Old 10-10-2009, 08:40 PM
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It looked to me like Zenyatta only ran hard for a few strides. I think the margin is misleading.
I think the 3/4 time to the mile was pretty fast. The race didn't set up in her favor but she overcame it, she had a right to loaf a bit late. Lethal Heat is no slouch for a horse that runs every 7 days.
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Old 10-10-2009, 08:43 PM
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Its kind of funny, cuz ironically, Lethal Heat has a very good record running against males (and that includes graded company).
True, but I just think whatever European that comes will be much better than Zenyatta if she goes in the Classic.
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