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Old 10-10-2009, 03:44 PM
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I don't know what you been smoking, but Obama,Pelosi,Reid,Hoyer have in no way been bipartisan. There could be a fringe element of those who want the country to tank because of Obama, but they don't represent any type of respectable conservative.
No, Pelosi, Reid, and Hoyer aren't bipartisan. Obama can control them if he can get a reason, too, but so far nobody from an "in play" state (DEM or REP) wants to look like they're letting him accomplish something. Bush was disliked by Conservatives for what he didn't do. He was disliked by most others for what he did get done.
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Old 10-10-2009, 03:51 PM
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He's gunna have to threaten to campaign against these back-stabbing DEMS in the Democratic Primaries. He can get this scum beat. They better wake up, cuz he can punish them if he wakes up. Call them in. Inform them. That's it. Tell them: "If You defy me, you aren't even getting to face Republicans in the general election. Come correct, or become roadkill." See, Scuds has the answer, and the brotha is still examining the cube for a tame solution that isn't there. No Pressure...No Pleasure.
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Old 10-10-2009, 04:30 PM
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No, Pelosi, Reid, and Hoyer aren't bipartisan. Obama can control them if he can get a reason, too, but so far nobody from an "in play" state (DEM or REP) wants to look like they're letting him accomplish something. Bush was disliked by Conservatives for what he didn't do. He was disliked by most others for what he did get done.
At this point in the debate,Bush is irellevent. Obama has given the knuckleheads free reign to construct legislation or to quash it. The has been no meaningful dialogue. Senate Republicans have a proposal...it's called 3400.
Bill 3200, which has been the 1000 lb monkey in the room, has morphed in to the Baucas bill, I think.
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Old 10-10-2009, 05:15 PM
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At this point in the debate,Bush is irellevent. Obama has given the knuckleheads free reign to construct legislation or to quash it. The has been no meaningful dialogue. Senate Republicans have a proposal...it's called 3400.
Bill 3200, which has been the 1000 lb monkey in the room, has morphed in to the Baucas bill, I think.
Needs to discipline his own people. He went wrong by tolerating their bullsht (at all.) Why be so nice with this here disgraceful lice.
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Old 10-10-2009, 05:28 PM
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Needs to discipline his own people. He went wrong by tolerating their bullsht (at all.) Why be so nice with this here disgraceful lice.
He's not a hands-on kinda guy! Relative newcomer to BIG political stage(this ain't Chicago) Inept at dealing with the intricacies of global diplomacy, and has absolutely no clue on how to manage a war, or take of our troops....no doubt about it, he's on a roll!

Just read an article that said Obama is thinking of paying the Afghans not to fight for the Taliban.....he's LOST!

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Old 10-10-2009, 10:57 PM
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good piece!

yeah, i thought it was....just saw this this morning:

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2009/1...&mod=sphere_wd


some excerpts:


Robert Reich, Clinton Labor Dept. Secretary: It underscores the paradox of Obama. On his blog, Reich writes that the president “has demonstrated mastery in both delivering powerful rhetoric and providing the nation and the world with fresh and important ways of understanding current challenges. But he has not yet delivered. To the contrary, he often seems to hold back from the fight—temporizing, delaying, or compromising so much that the rhetoric and insight he offers seem strangely disconnected from what he actually does.


Whereas Bush did not use force against North Korea, Obama does not rely on dialogue in Afghanistan. But the statement does pressure Obama not to use force in the theater that counts the most, namely the Iranian nuclear build-up. So, from the Leftist Norwegian point of view, it’s a twofer — bash Bush and handcuff Obama.”

John Dickerson, Slate magazine: Pundits win! “The Nobel committee has validated the idea that speeches and atmospherics are really important.”
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