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10-08-2009, 05:22 PM
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Dan Fouts
Games.........171 (86-84-1.506).......7 (3-4.429)...........2 (0-2.000) Comp%...........58.9.......................55.6... ..................50.7 YPG..............248.8.....................303.6.. ..................260.5 TD%.............4.6..........................4.2.. .....................4.1 Int%.............4.3..........................5.6. .....................5.5 Rating.........80.9..........................70.1. ...................64.9 Fouts is more highly regarded than he probably should be. He played in an offensive system that was highly prolific and his career touchdown and yards numbers are good. But he was a below average passer when it came to accuracy and his rating was average at best. During the playoffs, I'd even say he was mediocre. Rating was bad, accuracy was bad, and he threw more interceptions than touchdowns.
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10-08-2009, 07:32 PM
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Warren Moon
Games.........203 (102-101.502)..........10 (3-7.300) Comp%...............58.5........................64 .3 YPG...................241.2......................2 87.0 TD%...................4.2......................... 4.2 Int%..................3.4......................... .3.5 Rating...............80.8........................8 4.9 Moon is interesting. He didn't really play for a lot of good teams and his career winning percentage is not good. He's got a decent qb rating and his completion % is a little low but not horrible. What gets interesting is when you look at his playoff numbers. He increases his production in all areas by a good margin but the record doesn't show it. He's never played in a conference title game or Super Bowl so that's why there are only two columns for him. With the other guys I've done, you can see a correlation between their play and their team's success. With Moon, you can't. He's one of those that you want to say it's not his fault when his team loses because he did his job.
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10-08-2009, 07:38 PM
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QB ratings are as useless as turf beyers.
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#4
10-08-2009, 08:33 PM
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10-08-2009, 08:51 PM
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Staubach
Games.........114 (85-29.746).........17 (11-6.647)..........10 (6-4.600) Comp%..........57.2........................53.8... ...................56.3 YPG.............191.4......................151.4.. ...................153.5 TD%..............5.3..........................5.5. .....................6.5 Int%..............3.5..........................4.9 .....................5.2 Rating...........85.0.........................72.4 ....................76.7 This guy is in the hall of fame? Talk about an average quarterback? How about below average? He was below average in accuracy and not much better with his rating. He didn't throw for a lot of yards. His td/int ratio wasn't anything to write home about. But he won. I always thought that Bradshaw was the model of an average quarterback that benefitted from having a lot of talent around him but now I'm not sure which guy was luckier. Amazing that these guys have six titles between them while Elway, Favre, Marino, and Moon have a combined three.
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10-09-2009, 02:09 PM
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You see these guys on here and you would say no way!! 4. Tony Romo (28) 93.3 2004-2009 dal 5. Philip Rivers (27) 92.7 2004-2009 sdg 8. Chad Pennington (32) 90.1 2000-2009 2TM 11. Daunte Culpepper (31) 88.9 1999-2009 4TM 12. Carson Palmer (29) 88.1 2004-2009 cin 13. Matt Schaub (27) 87.9 2004-2009 2TM 14. Jeff Garcia (38) 87.5 1999-2009 5TM 15. Jay Cutler (25) 87.3 2006-2009 2TM 18. Trent Green 86.0 1997-2008 4TM David Garrard (30) 85.7 2002-2009 jax
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10-09-2009, 09:45 PM
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Here's the way I look at it. A rating is like a raw time at the racetrack. A horse might run 6f in 1:10. Another horse at another track might run it in 1:12. You can't compare the two because there are so many variables that go into why one was faster than the other. Same thing with a qb rating. One quarterback may play in a system that focuses on the deep pass. Another may play in one where 60% of his passes are 3-7 yard dinks. One quarterback may play with Barry Sanders and the other has Berry Gordy. So it's hard to compare them to each other and it's even harder to compare guys of different years or eras. But what you can compare with a little more accuracy is one horse against himself. If he runs six races at SA and all of them are between 1:09 4/5 and 1:10 2/5 then all of a sudden, he runs a 1:08, you know that was a really fast race for him or if it's a 1:12, it's a slow one. Same thing I'm doing here. I'm not focusing on how each quarterback compares against the others as much as I am looking at how they fare against themselves under the different levels of pressure. Looked at that way, I think the numbers are a good gauge and very useful.
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10-09-2009, 10:46 PM
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Go do Otto Graham. Dig into the archives!! The greatest winner of all time. Of course when he played, they only played one postseason game. 10 years as a professional, 10 championship games played....7-3 record. Of course only 6 of those in the NFL but still 3-3 in those 6 NFL championship games he played.
My guess is his stats and ratings are probably terrible.
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