Horse of the Decade By Track

[randallscott35]

That Churchill Beyer by Street Cry is not as big as Mineshaft's losing effort on the thoros in the Foster.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

That Churchill Beyer by Street Cry is not as big as Mineshaft's losing effort on the thoros in the Foster.

Street Cry's Foster Beyer was 118.

Perfect Drift and Mineshaft's Foster Beyers were both 117.

sheet figures take weight and ground loss on turns into account ... with Mineshaft having 123lbs and I believe a very wide trip on both turns from a wide post ... it's not hard to see how they have him running a little faster.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Street Cry's Foster Beyer was 118.

Perfect Drift and Mineshaft's Foster Beyers were both 117.

sheet figures take weight and ground loss on turns into account ... with Mineshaft having 123lbs and I believe a very wide trip on both turns from a wide post ... it's not hard to see how they have him running a little faster.

My point is Beyers are not the best guide. Mineshaft got a Negative 5 for that race. Still the fastest route race at Churchill ever.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

My point is Beyers are not the best guide. Mineshaft got a Negative 5 for that race. Still the fastest route race at Churchill ever.

The Thoro-Graph figures have a runaway scale though ... good alw horses at Churchill these days run 10 lengths faster than Sunday Silence, Alysheba, and Ferdinand on TG.

They aren't a good tool for comparisons over a long time frame.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

The Thoro-Graph figures have a runaway scale though ... good alw horses at Churchill these days run 10 lengths faster than Sunday Silence, Alysheba, and Ferdinand on TG.

They aren't a good tool for comparisons over a long time frame.

Regardless, they are at least a good comparison for the last decade and the years that Mineshaft and Street Cry ran in were similar enough for me to unequivocally say that Mineshaft has the fastest number at CD.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Regardless, they are at least a good comparison for the last decade and the years that Mineshaft and Street Cry ran in were similar enough for me to unequivocally say that Mineshaft has the fastest number at CD.

I wouldn't disagree.

I thought Mineshaft was an outstanding horse to say the least once he got lasix ... but still, he doesn't belong in the discussion as Churchill horse of the decade. He ran 2 races there .. an alw win by 1.5 lengths and a great defeat to Perfect Drift in the Foster.

I think I've seen 20 or 30 horses this decade who I'm confident would smear Street Sense at Churchill ... but Street Sense has the best credentials to be named CD horse of the decade.

[dalakhani]

How about Confucious Say at Charlestown. A huevo would have to be mentioned.

As for Saratoga, does Pomeroy get a look?

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

How about Confucious Say at Charlestown. A huevo would have to be mentioned.

As for Saratoga, does Pomeroy get a look?

Probably for CS at CT.

A negative on Pomeroy. He was 3-for-5 at SAR. Wins coming over War Front, I'm the Tiger, and Weigelia.