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10-07-2009, 02:42 PM
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Ben Roethlisberger
Games..........71 (51-20.718).........10 (8-2.800)........5 (4-1.800) Comp%............62.4.....................61.9.... ...............59.1 YPG...............208.4...................223.9... ................227.0 TD%...............5.3.......................5.4... ...................4.4 Int%...............3.6.......................4.3.. ....................4.4 Rating............89.5.....................87.2... ..................82.2 Roethlisberger is a pretty steady guy. He loses some accuracy but not a whole lot. His td/int ratio is not too good and gets worse as the stakes rise so he might want to work on that but his numbers don't lose too much as the games get bigger.
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10-07-2009, 06:42 PM
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Steve Young
Games............143 (94-49.657)........14 (8-6.571).........5 (2-3.400) Comp%............64.4........................61.5. ...................61.2 YPG.................224.6......................222 .7..................266.0 TD%...............5.5..........................4.3 ......................5.5 Int%...............2.6..........................2. 7......................2.2 Rating............96.4.........................85. 4....................92.5 Young's first two years were with the Buccaneers and they really didn't qualify as an NFL team. Here are his career regular season numbers with SF as a starter: 65.9% completions, 233.0 ypg, 5.9 td%, 2.3 int%, 101.1 rating. Young's numbers, while pretty good, show why he never could replace Montana up there. He was much more of a regular season guy and just didn't come through in the clutch the same way as Montana did. Montana got markedly better as the pressure increased. Young regressed. Not by a lot but still, went backwards.
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The real horses of the year (1986-2020) Manila, Java Gold, Alysheba, Sunday Silence, Go for Wand, In Excess, Paseana, Kotashaan, Holy Bull, Cigar, Alphabet Soup, Formal Gold, Skip Away, Artax, Tiznow, Point Given, Azeri, Candy Ride, Smarty Jones, Ghostzapper, Invasor, Curlin, Zenyatta, Zenyatta, Goldikova, Havre de Grace, Wise Dan, Wise Dan, California Chrome, American Pharoah, Arrogate, Gun Runner, Accelerate, Maximum Security, Gamine
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10-07-2009, 08:44 PM
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Terry Bradshaw
Games..........158 (107-51.677).........19 (14-5.737)..........10 (8-2.800) Comp%............52.4..........................57. 3.....................54.5 YPG...............171.9.........................20 1.7...................191.7 TD%................5.3............................ 6.6......................7.3 Int%................5.2........................... .5.7......................6.4 Rating.............71.9........................... 83.0.....................81.6 Bradshaw obviously got the job done and as the pressure increased, he got better. His accuracy and his quarterback rating both got better in the playoffs than in the regular season. The one thing I don't like about him is that his td/int ratio was very poor. Overall, he never was an accurate passer and his rating sucks in comparison to some of the best but you can't argue with the results. Great team or not, he got better as the stakes got higher.
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The real horses of the year (1986-2020) Manila, Java Gold, Alysheba, Sunday Silence, Go for Wand, In Excess, Paseana, Kotashaan, Holy Bull, Cigar, Alphabet Soup, Formal Gold, Skip Away, Artax, Tiznow, Point Given, Azeri, Candy Ride, Smarty Jones, Ghostzapper, Invasor, Curlin, Zenyatta, Zenyatta, Goldikova, Havre de Grace, Wise Dan, Wise Dan, California Chrome, American Pharoah, Arrogate, Gun Runner, Accelerate, Maximum Security, Gamine
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10-07-2009, 09:44 PM
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Jim Kelly
Games.......160 (101-59.631)......17 (9-8.529)..............9 (4-5.444) Comp%..........60.1.....................59.1...... ......................58.0 YPG.............221.7...................227.2..... .......................194.0 TD%.............5.0......................3.9...... .........................2.2 Int%.............3.7......................5.1..... ..........................5.5 Rating..........84.4.....................72.3..... .......................61.5 Very disappointing showing by Kelly. He's got decent numbers for the regular season but in the playoffs, he's been pretty mediocre. His completion % is under 60% and his rating plummets to horrific depths. While never good to begin with, his td/int ratio really gets horrible in the playoffs. He's at 21/28 in the playoffs overall and 6/15 in conference title games and the Super Bowl. His numbers in the big games are very, very poor.
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10-07-2009, 11:04 PM
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Thought this would be interesting to show you all.
Regular season Completion% Bradshaw-52.4 Vick-53.9 YPG Bradshaw-171.9 Vick-162.2 TD% Bradshaw-5.3 Vick-4.2 Int% Bradshaw-5.2 Vick-3.0 Rating Bradshaw-71.9 Vick-76.0 Playoffs Completion% Kelly-59.1 Vick-56.3 YPG Kelly-227.2 Vick-152.3 TD% Kelly-3.9 Vick-2.9 Int% Kelly-5.1 Vick-2.9 Rating Kelly-72.3 Vick-71.2 Interesting how closely he compares to those two hall of fame quarterbacks and that doesn't even count his rushing yards.
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10-07-2009, 11:17 PM
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Comparing QB ratings over eras is pointless. With the rule changes on bump and run it is a completely different animal. Your comparison of regular season to playoffs, to Super Bowl is quite interesting and appreciated but comparing QBs from 15 years to the QBs of today on statistics is irrelevant. They made the game easier for QBs today with the rule changes.
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10-08-2009, 02:30 PM
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Donovan McNabb
Games.........128 (82-45-1.645)........15 (9-6.600)............6 (1-5.167) Comp%..........59.1..........................59.6. .....................57.3 YPG.............227.8........................234.8 ......................237.7 TD%..............4.6...........................4.3 .........................4.0 Int%..............2.1...........................3. 0.........................4.0 Rating..........86.4..........................80.8 .......................72.9 McNabb is steady but not great. The standard for a good NFL quarterback is 60% completion rate and he's just below that. His qb rating is also not too good and drops as the pressure increases. Also notice that while he's over 2/1 in td/int ratio during the regular season, he falls to 1/1 when the biggest money is on the line.
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10-08-2009, 04:08 PM
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1991 Redskins allowed 53.3% completions (48.3) 205.8 ypg (275) 58.9 rating (44.8) 1992 Cowboys allowed 54.3% completions (57.1) 189.6 ypg (82) 69.9 rating (58.9) That SB is kind of odd numbers wise because Kelly only three seven passes. He went 4-7 for 82 yards with no touchdowns and two interceptions. 1993 Cowboys allowed 60.2% completions (62.0) 209.2 ypg (260) 75.3 rating (67.1) In each situation, his rating was well below what the defense allowed during the course of the year. Interstingly, in the one you say he partied too hard and was hung over, he performed better than the rest of the league against the Giants. 1990 Giants allowed 56.0% completions (60.0) 183.3 ypg (212) 62.2 rating (81.5) Kelly had played the Giants in the regular season and had a 129.0 rating against them.
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10-08-2009, 11:07 PM
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Fran Tarkenton
Games......239 (124-109-6.531)......11 (6-5.545)............6 (3-3.500) Comp%.........57.0.........................51.0... ...................49.7 YPG.............194.8......................163.9.. ....................148.0 TD%............5.3...........................3.8.. .......................1.9 Int%............4.1...........................5.8. ........................5.7 Rating.........80.3.........................58.6.. .....................49.5 Hold the damn horses. How the hell is Tarkenton in the hall of fame? This is depressing to read. What has he done that's noteworthy? His regular season numbers are average at best. So you'd think maybe he was some great winner. But he wasn't. He did get to three Super Bowls but looking at his numbers during the playoffs, you have to think his teams did it in spite of him. Those playoff numbers are horrific. Barely over 50% completions and an 11/17 td/int ratio. And it gets worse in the big games. And even worse in the Super Bowl itself. In the three Super Bowls, he's at 51.7% completions with one td and six interceptions, 163.0 yards per game and a 43.7 rating. Why in the hell is this guy in the hall of fame. After he made it to the Super Bowl last year, I heard a lot of people debating about whether or not Kurt Warner will make it. Kurt Warner is light years better than Fran Tarkenton. He kills him in stats, has been to as many Super Bowls and has actually won one. I liked Fran on "That's Incredible" but the real incredible fact is that he's in the hall of fame.
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#10
10-10-2009, 02:56 PM
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So impressive to see how guys like Montana and Aikman took it to another level in the biggest games.
Has always been the thing that separates the elite athletes … those two and guys like Jordan and Bird … from the very good ones.
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