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[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

That's besides the point though. The point was which matchup would be a bigger game, not which team is better. The USC/Oregon is shaping up to likely be for the Pac-10 title and BCS berth. It's going to have a hell of a lot riding on it, especially for USC. With a win, with the way the schedule is going to play out for other teams, it could mean putting them in the title game. As for which team is better, I have no argument with you saying that Boise St. dominated them that night. But since then, I think the teams have gone in opposite directions. Boise St. struggled with Fresno St. Fresno actually outgained Boise in passing and rushing yards and had more first downs. Boise was very unimpressive against UC-Davis and that's not even a division one school. Oregon has improved immensely from that opening game, which I thought was at Boise. If teams stayed at one level throughout the season, you'd have to give Boise the advantage. But they don't.

well, you can look at the Fresno State thing several ways. Fresno also outgained Wisconsin and Cincinnati on the road while neither of those teams gained the 500 total yards Boise did against them on the road. So we can spin and spin and spin to make the argument go our way. Fresno State beat UC-Davis 51-0. They also played Boise who scored 51 on them. I wouldn't take the UC-Davis game so seriously.

There may be 50 to 100 teams better than Boise State. They killed Oregon and went on the road and beat an ok Fresno team scoring over 50. They are what they are and it is likely they are going undefeated again which many people don't like. I hope they lose so the whining won't get out of control again about the non-BCS schools. Kellen Moore is a great "college" quarterback. They aren't going to lose however. Gonna be fun. Every Boise State game has a lot riding on it. Just as much as the Oregon/USC game. They are all for the BCS for Boise State. Unlike the big conference games, they can't lose. Simply can't. That's how the system works.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

well, you can look at the Fresno State thing several ways. Fresno also outgained Wisconsin and Cincinnati on the road while neither of those teams gained the 500 total yards Boise did against them on the road. So we can spin and spin and spin to make the argument go our way. Fresno State beat UC-Davis 51-0. They also played Boise who scored 51 on them. I wouldn't take the UC-Davis game so seriously.

There may be 50 to 100 teams better than Boise State. They killed Oregon and went on the road and beat an ok Fresno team scoring over 50. They are what they are and it is likely they are going undefeated again which many people don't like. I hope they lose so the whining won't get out of control again about the non-BCS schools. Kellen Moore is a great "college" quarterback. They aren't going to lose however. Gonna be fun.

Again, it's not about which team is better so I'm not going to get into a debate about how good Boise is versus how good Fresno is. Neither team, to me, is relevant to the big picture. The conversation was which game would be a bigger game and I still believe that a game that will probably decide the Pac-10 champion and their BCS bid and possibly a berth in the title game is a bigger game than any Boise St. game. That's not saying Oregon or USC is better. That's a different conversation.

[randallscott35]

Ummm, Rutgers is not in any of your top 10s? Not good.

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

Again, it's not about which team is better so I'm not going to get into a debate about how good Boise is versus how good Fresno is. Neither team, to me, is relevant to the big picture. The conversation was which game would be a bigger game and I still believe that a game that will probably decide the Pac-10 champion and their BCS bid and possibly a berth in the title game is a bigger game than any Boise St. game. That's not saying Oregon or USC is better. That's a different conversation.

In a strange way, I think Boise State is both massively overrated and massively underrated at the same time. It's much easier to argue for Mountain West teams as there are at least usually a couple pretty good teams every year there. Boise State sits on an island. The Mountain West would be a much better fit for them.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

In a strange way, I think Boise State is both massively overrated and massively underrated at the same time. It's much easier to argue for Mountain West teams as there are at least usually a couple pretty good teams every year there. Boise State sits on an island. The Mountain West would be a much better fit for them.

Boise earned respect from me a couple of years ago when I thought Oklahoma would beat them but Boise won the game. I think that on a single game basis, they might be able to match up with most teams in the country. At least compete well. But on a week in and week out basis, they wouldn't be able to. That's the difference.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

Boise earned respect from me a couple of years ago when I thought Oklahoma would beat them but Boise won the game. I think that on a single game basis, they might be able to match up with most teams in the country. At least compete well. But on a week in and week out basis, they wouldn't be able to. That's the difference.

Thats a good point and its seldom brought up. The big difference in the top tier division 1 programs and the next tier is in DEPTH not necessarily talent. That shows out over the course of the season and may not in one game. If bowl games were played immediately after the regular season ended, you would have far fewer upsets mainly because the lesser teams need that time to physically heal while the bigger programs have backups that are often times as good as starters.