Beyers: Summer Bird 111; Kowboy/Music 108; Gone Astray 103

[randallscott35]

Fair enough Steve, but this guy was gushing how Big Brown was easily the best horse he had ever ridden a year ago....I understand being in a situation....As for Baffert, I don't understand how he says Zensational is the fastest horse he's ever trained. His numbers a re turtle like compared to Midnight Lute.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Fair enough Steve, but this guy was gushing how Big Brown was easily the best horse he had ever ridden a year ago....I understand being in a situation....As for Baffert, I don't understand how he says Zensational is the fastest horse he's ever trained. His numbers a re turtle like compared to Midnight Lute.

Every year every jock says they are on the best horse they've ever been on. Its as BS as Ice saying SB is better than Rachel at 10 and Rachel is better than SB at 9.. and Dutrow saying the belmont is a "foregone conclusion". Trainerspeak and Jockeyspeak is a bunch of nonsense. No crap they are going to tout their own horse as the best EvAh!

It would be funny if next year Boral wins the triple crown and says "this is the best horse I've ever been on".

[parsixfarms]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

Its as BS as Ice saying SB is better than Rachel at 10 and Rachel is better than SB at 9...

You're right, RA couldn't beat SB now at 9F.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by parsixfarms

You're right, RA couldn't beat SB now at 9F.

SB wouldn't beat RA at 9fs in a fairly run race and SB would get smoked by Quality Road at a mile .. which is his best distance.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

SB wouldn't beat RA at 9fs in a fairly run race and SB would get smoked by Quality Road at a mile .. which is his best distance.

She's already proved twice she will win even if it is an "unfairly" run race.


Parsixfarms post made about as much sense as a Crossfirehurricane post.

[parsixfarms]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

She's already proved twice she will win even if it is an "unfairly" run race.


Parsixfarms post made about as much sense as a Crossfirehurricane post.

After reading the Summer Bird HOY discussion, the post was meant as a joke. That being said, I hope your suggestion that RA competed in "unfairly" run races was made in a similar vein.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by parsixfarms

After reading the Summer Bird HOY discussion, the post was meant as a joke. That being said, I hope your suggestion that RA competed in "unfairly" run races was made in a similar vein.

I'm actually not sure what an unfairly run race is?


Edit - I did think Smarty's Belmont was an "unfairly" run race though. When other jockey's kill their horses in order to beat one horse, and not win the race.. that is an unfairly run race IMO.

[King Glorious]

A fairly run race is one where all of the starting gates open at the same time. The rest of the stuff is nonsense. It's still a fair race if it's three horses and the pace is 51 seconds for the half. It's still a fair race if it's 15 horses and the pace is 45 for the half. Either you have the speed and versatility to adapt to the conditions or you don't. If you don't have enough tractability to sit off of a face pace and a 45 will cook you, that's a negative in your book. If you don't have the speed to stay close when the pace is 51 and you can't close into it, that's a negative for you. It's not fair or unfair.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

A fairly run race is one where all of the starting gates open at the same time. The rest of the stuff is nonsense.

facepalm.

[parsixfarms]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

As for Baffert, I don't understand how he says Zensational is the fastest horse he's ever trained. His numbers a re turtle like compared to Midnight Lute.

It wouldn't have anything to do with the value of those stallion seasons, now would it?