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Old 10-06-2009, 01:05 PM
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Of course we know which games are big without having to look at the rankings, rankings aren't necessary for people who actually follow the sport. My point was that I could know a game was a big deal when I see #1 and #4 play even if I hadn't followed college football at all. That is why rankings exist, to draw in fans that might not know what is going on but that know #1 against #4 is a big deal.
But how would #1 Florida vs. #5 Boise St. be a big deal to anyone when Florida would be favored by 25?
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Old 10-06-2009, 01:12 PM
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But how would #1 Florida vs. #5 Boise St. be a big deal to anyone when Florida would be favored by 25?
That game would be a bigger deal to me than any matchup you could put together this season. And there is no way Florida would be favored by 25 points. In Boise the spread would be close.
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Old 10-06-2009, 01:19 PM
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That game would be a bigger deal to me than any matchup you could put together this season. And there is no way Florida would be favored by 25 points. In Boise the spread would be close.
Florida would crush them. I'd think Florida/Alabama or Oklahoma/Texas or USC/Oregon would be bigger deals than Boise St. vs. anyone.
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Florida would crush them. I'd think Florida/Alabama or Oklahoma/Texas or USC/Oregon would be bigger deals than Boise St. vs. anyone.
It would be a better game then you are giving it credit for and the underdog story would have people interested. And the spread would not be anywhere near 25 points.
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Old 10-06-2009, 01:29 PM
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It would be a better game then you are giving it credit for and the underdog story would have people interested. And the spread would not be anywhere near 25 points.
the spread would be double figures any way you cut it. At least 2 touchdowns.
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Old 10-06-2009, 02:00 PM
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the spread would be double figures any way you cut it. At least 2 touchdowns.
What does it matter, FL will never schedule them
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Florida would crush them. I'd think Florida/Alabama or Oklahoma/Texas or USC/Oregon would be bigger deals than Boise St. vs. anyone.
not if the game was on the "smurf turf" the spread would be lower too.
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Old 10-06-2009, 03:29 PM
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not if the game was on the "smurf turf" the spread would be lower too.
They could play that game anywhere on anything. Boise State wouldn't get close to Florida.
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They could play that game anywhere on anything. Boise State wouldn't get close to Florida.
Agreed. That is a totally different class of horse.
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Florida would crush them. I'd think Florida/Alabama or Oklahoma/Texas or USC/Oregon would be bigger deals than Boise St. vs. anyone.
did you actually happen to see Oregon play Boise State?? The game I saw, Oregon didn't get a first down in the first half. Which game did you watch?? Boise State vs anyone?? I saw them vs Oregon. It was a total massacre. Fresno State gave undefeated Big 10 and Big East teams much better games on the road than they gave Boise State at home. It is what it is.
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Old 10-06-2009, 10:55 PM
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did you actually happen to see Oregon play Boise State?? The game I saw, Oregon didn't get a first down in the first half. Which game did you watch?? Boise State vs anyone?? I saw them vs Oregon. It was a total massacre. Fresno State gave undefeated Big 10 and Big East teams much better games on the road than they gave Boise State at home. It is what it is.
That's besides the point though. The point was which matchup would be a bigger game, not which team is better. The USC/Oregon is shaping up to likely be for the Pac-10 title and BCS berth. It's going to have a hell of a lot riding on it, especially for USC. With a win, with the way the schedule is going to play out for other teams, it could mean putting them in the title game. As for which team is better, I have no argument with you saying that Boise St. dominated them that night. But since then, I think the teams have gone in opposite directions. Boise St. struggled with Fresno St. Fresno actually outgained Boise in passing and rushing yards and had more first downs. Boise was very unimpressive against UC-Davis and that's not even a division one school. Oregon has improved immensely from that opening game, which I thought was at Boise. If teams stayed at one level throughout the season, you'd have to give Boise the advantage. But they don't.
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That's besides the point though. The point was which matchup would be a bigger game, not which team is better. The USC/Oregon is shaping up to likely be for the Pac-10 title and BCS berth. It's going to have a hell of a lot riding on it, especially for USC. With a win, with the way the schedule is going to play out for other teams, it could mean putting them in the title game. As for which team is better, I have no argument with you saying that Boise St. dominated them that night. But since then, I think the teams have gone in opposite directions. Boise St. struggled with Fresno St. Fresno actually outgained Boise in passing and rushing yards and had more first downs. Boise was very unimpressive against UC-Davis and that's not even a division one school. Oregon has improved immensely from that opening game, which I thought was at Boise. If teams stayed at one level throughout the season, you'd have to give Boise the advantage. But they don't.
well, you can look at the Fresno State thing several ways. Fresno also outgained Wisconsin and Cincinnati on the road while neither of those teams gained the 500 total yards Boise did against them on the road. So we can spin and spin and spin to make the argument go our way. Fresno State beat UC-Davis 51-0. They also played Boise who scored 51 on them. I wouldn't take the UC-Davis game so seriously.

There may be 50 to 100 teams better than Boise State. They killed Oregon and went on the road and beat an ok Fresno team scoring over 50. They are what they are and it is likely they are going undefeated again which many people don't like. I hope they lose so the whining won't get out of control again about the non-BCS schools. Kellen Moore is a great "college" quarterback. They aren't going to lose however. Gonna be fun. Every Boise State game has a lot riding on it. Just as much as the Oregon/USC game. They are all for the BCS for Boise State. Unlike the big conference games, they can't lose. Simply can't. That's how the system works.
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Old 10-07-2009, 10:58 AM
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well, you can look at the Fresno State thing several ways. Fresno also outgained Wisconsin and Cincinnati on the road while neither of those teams gained the 500 total yards Boise did against them on the road. So we can spin and spin and spin to make the argument go our way. Fresno State beat UC-Davis 51-0. They also played Boise who scored 51 on them. I wouldn't take the UC-Davis game so seriously.

There may be 50 to 100 teams better than Boise State. They killed Oregon and went on the road and beat an ok Fresno team scoring over 50. They are what they are and it is likely they are going undefeated again which many people don't like. I hope they lose so the whining won't get out of control again about the non-BCS schools. Kellen Moore is a great "college" quarterback. They aren't going to lose however. Gonna be fun.
Again, it's not about which team is better so I'm not going to get into a debate about how good Boise is versus how good Fresno is. Neither team, to me, is relevant to the big picture. The conversation was which game would be a bigger game and I still believe that a game that will probably decide the Pac-10 champion and their BCS bid and possibly a berth in the title game is a bigger game than any Boise St. game. That's not saying Oregon or USC is better. That's a different conversation.
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