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Old 10-05-2009, 01:39 PM
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They are being nice and showing respect for the race, unlike the owner of Rachel Alexandra. They have no intention of coming, just like Rachel had no intention of running in it. The difference is his owners have class and don't want to belittle the Classic and the eventual winner. Rachel's owner showed no class by constantly trying to belittle the race as if he not running in the BC somehow made it no importance. I guess that was part political for the HOY voting but it also was classless. The winner of the Classic or Ladies Classic will have to be a very good horse this year.
Has Jess Jackson actually done anything of the sort?

Do you have any quotes or anything indicating that he's belittled the race, or are you just randomly typing until a sentence finishes if it gives you a chance to call him "classless?"

He has a problem with the surface. Agree with him or not, I am highly dubious of the fact that he's ever belittled the Breeders' Cup Classic as an event.

Maybe I'm wrong.
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Old 10-05-2009, 01:48 PM
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Why does everyone assume that if Sea the Stars comes to the BC he will run in the classic? Why wouldnt he run in the Turf? Why would he run in the Classic?
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Old 10-05-2009, 01:50 PM
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Why does everyone assume that if Sea the Stars comes to the BC he will run in the classic? Why wouldnt he run in the Turf? Why would he run in the Classic?
Easier field?
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Old 10-05-2009, 01:51 PM
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Easier field?
Who is so good in the Turf?
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Old 10-05-2009, 01:54 PM
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Who is so good in the Turf?
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Old 10-05-2009, 01:57 PM
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Damn thats right.....forgot already.
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Old 10-05-2009, 01:51 PM
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Why does everyone assume that if Sea the Stars comes to the BC he will run in the classic? Why wouldnt he run in the Turf? Why would he run in the Classic?
Really, Chuck?
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Old 10-05-2009, 01:56 PM
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Really, Chuck?
Freddy says money doesnt matter
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Old 10-05-2009, 01:58 PM
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Freddy says money doesnt matter
It's obvious isn't it? They have nothing to gain and at least a little to lose in the Turf, and a ton to gain and nothing to lose in the Classic.
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Old 10-05-2009, 02:00 PM
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It's obvious isn't it? They have nothing to gain and at least a little to lose in the Turf, and a ton to gain and nothing to lose in the Classic.
They have a lot to lose in any race they run in now. Sounds like the trainer doesnt want to run anyway.
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Old 10-05-2009, 02:02 PM
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They have a lot to lose in any race they run in now. Sounds like the trainer doesnt want to run anyway.
Agreed. He's not coming.
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Old 10-05-2009, 02:15 PM
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When was the last Arc winner to come over for the BC, I seem to remember Pentre Celebre coming over in 91 or something, not sure if there have been many off the top of my head.
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Old 10-05-2009, 03:30 PM
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They have a lot to lose in any race they run in now. Sounds like the trainer doesnt want to run anyway.
You think they have a lot to lose by going in the Classic? They have a lot to lose if he's beat on the Turf but on the synthetics there is a built in excuse.
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Old 10-05-2009, 01:55 PM
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Why does everyone assume that if Sea the Stars comes to the BC he will run in the classic? Why wouldnt he run in the Turf? Why would he run in the Classic?
Oxx and Tsui have said if they go to the BC, it will be for the Classic..
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Old 10-05-2009, 01:57 PM
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Oxx and Tsui have said if they go to the BC, it will be for the Classic..
Ok that would be a telling sign wouldnt it?
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Old 10-05-2009, 07:41 PM
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Why does everyone assume that if Sea the Stars comes to the BC he will run in the classic? Why wouldnt he run in the Turf? Why would he run in the Classic?
PURSE MONEY....Geez you always forget about how important purse money is to owners, remember they have to keep score.
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Old 10-05-2009, 08:06 PM
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Purse money means nothing to this owner. This horse is worth between 50 and 100 million US dollars. The purse money from the Classic works out to about 2 million to the owner after taxes and trainer and jockey. Travel is another 100K. This horse can earn 2 million in a single week in the breeding shed.

He is not a great horse with a decent pedigree. He is not a filly. He is the best horse in decades with a perfect pedigree. He is arguably the greatest stallion prospect ever. He is such a good prospect that the downturn in the market will do little to hurt his value.

There is no chance he ever races again. The BC will likely flatter him more when all his victims dominate eveything.
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Old 10-05-2009, 11:38 PM
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Purse money means nothing to this owner. This horse is worth between 50 and 100 million US dollars. The purse money from the Classic works out to about 2 million to the owner after taxes and trainer and jockey. Travel is another 100K. This horse can earn 2 million in a single week in the breeding shed.

He is not a great horse with a decent pedigree. He is not a filly. He is the best horse in decades with a perfect pedigree. He is arguably the greatest stallion prospect ever. He is such a good prospect that the downturn in the market will do little to hurt his value.

There is no chance he ever races again. The BC will likely flatter him more when all his victims dominate eveything.
Let me guess, you are a PR specialist or a marketing guru type.

Did you write the press release for the Zensational stud deal?
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Old 10-06-2009, 12:48 AM
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WITH ALL THAT SAID........HE IS COMING, TRUST ME, I AM NEVER WRONG. HE IS COMING, YOU HEARD IT HERE
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Old 10-07-2009, 04:24 PM
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Anyone know how is race horse insurance works???

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009...nce-retirement
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