Kentucky racing

I think handicapping Turfway is much easier that it was before they installed PolyTrack.

[JJP]

I totally disagree. The old surface was often biased, although the biases would change. It is a myth that the old track was ALWAYS inside speed. There was quite a few days when wide closers were the trip one wanted. But if you kept notes on the daily biases, there were many betback horses.

Now, randomness seems to trump talent and/or form. Many times, when one looks over a race after a losing bet, they can find several clues why the winner won. I've never seen a track where I couldn't make a case for the winner after the fact as often as at the current Turfway meet. If it works for you, fine. I just will take my wagering dollars elsewhere.

[pmayjr]

JJ, you're right. Keeneland doesn't need it. It's too bad.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by pmayjr

JJ, you're right. Keeneland doesn't need it. It's too bad.

Keeneland really needed it. Just ask some of the horses that had to run over the old highway.

[JJP]

Considering how many maiden and NW1X races they card, not to mention the small number of claiming races, I doubt many of the horses running there are very sore. Besides, its six weeks a year. We aren't talking about a 4 month during the winter meet like Turfway.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by JJP

Considering how many maiden and NW1X races they card, not to mention the small number of claiming races, I doubt many of the horses running there are very sore. Besides, its six weeks a year. We aren't talking about a 4 month during the winter meet like Turfway.

They usually weren't sore BEFORE the race. After a different story. Worst track on the East Coast, though Delaware and Gulfstream ain't great.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by JJP

I totally disagree. The old surface was often biased, although the biases would change. It is a myth that the old track was ALWAYS inside speed. There was quite a few days when wide closers were the trip one wanted. But if you kept notes on the daily biases, there were many betback horses.

Now, randomness seems to trump talent and/or form. Many times, when one looks over a race after a losing bet, they can find several clues why the winner won. I've never seen a track where I couldn't make a case for the winner after the fact as often as at the current Turfway meet. If it works for you, fine. I just will take my wagering dollars elsewhere.

Listen as bad as some of the cards have been at Turfway its hard to blame randomness on track surface.