All-time Top 12 seasons by a QB

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

People that would take Brady over Manning are drinking a lot of Kool-Aid. Brady has ONE season with a QB rating over 92.6!!!!! Peyton Manning hasn't been below 95 since 2002. Have we ever seen Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne play with another QB to know how good they really were and how good Manning has made them look? Both are good receivers but they put up much bigger numbers in their career from having Manning throwing to them.

Ummm, Marvin Harrison was there BEFORE Manning got there. And there is no doubt that Manning was a huge influence on Harrison's numbers along with the change in offense. Harrison was a good receiver before Manning but certainly not anywhere close to what he became with Manning and edgerrin.

We have seen players with and without Brady. Deion Branch? Troy Brown? Jabbar Gaffney?


Brady has a true stud wide receiver for ONE YEAR and look what he does. He breaks the record for TD passes and goes undefeated during the regular season.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Brady has a true stud wide receiver for ONE YEAR and look what he does. He breaks the record for TD passes and goes undefeated during the regular season.

Moss isn't a stud reciever ... he's an entire offensive system because of what opposing coverages do.


* An over the hill backup Randall Cunningham had a 15-1 season with Moss.

The only loss was at Tampa against Tony Dungy where Cunningham went 21-for-25 with 291 passing yards and 2 TD passes.

They lost that one game because Alscott and Dunn BOTH ran for over 100 yards and Minny's defense couldn't get off the field.


* An over the hill backup Jeff George went 10-2 with Moss

One of the two defeats was at Tampa Bay. They outgained Tampa 339-to-190.

The other loss was 31-28 at Kansas City in a game where they LOST 4 fumbles.

They dominated the Cowboys by 17 in the first round of the playoffs .. but lost a shoot out the following week in which Jeff George threw for 423 yards and 4 TD passes.

* Gus Frerotte was perfect as a starter with Moss and the offense avg'd a mere 37 points a game under him. Frerotte avg'd 3 TD passes per start.

* In Todd Bouman's first start for the Vikings he went 21-for-31 348, yards, 4 passing TD's and just 1 INT in a 42-24 win over the Tennessee Titans.

* Matt Cassell - who never saw the field in College - went 11-5 as a starter and threw for 3,700 yards with a 89.4 passer rating.


In a Randy Moss offense ... almost any bum off of the street will look like a superstar playing qb, slot reciever, and tight end. And the rb's wont get as many carries but the average yards per carry will increase.

However, that all depends on the pass blocking capability of the offensive line.

The offense with Moss was brilliant in Oakland in the rare games when the O-line wasn't downright man handled. The offense was terrible when the line was giving up a sack every other pass attempt.

Thus, the way to correctly build a Moss offense is to focus solely on an offensive line of pass blocking specialists that allow enough time for him to run deep routes and double moves.

The one advantage Culpepper had was that he was 270lbs and fairly mobile - even when the line didn't play good .. he was so hard to tackle that he completed a lot of short stuff underneath with defenders hanging off of him.

However, he had to be the single worst game manager I've ever seen. No one was ever better at losing shootouts where both sides were getting gashed on defense.