Breeders Cup Turf winners 1999-2008

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by cakes44

Since we're talking bad rides now, I'd like to see some rankings of worst BC rides in any turf race. There have been some BEAUTIES, especially from the Euro jocks.

I nominate Murtagh's ride on Soldier of Fortune last year. Hurrying into your rabbit on the backstretch of a 12 furlong race is always intelligent.

Of course there's also Swain.

NT

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

I nominate Murtagh's ride on Soldier of Fortune last year. Hurrying into your rabbit on the backstretch of a 12 furlong race is always intelligent.

Of course there's also Swain.

NT

Spencer gave Powerscourt a really brilliant one, too.

[brockguy]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

I nominate Murtagh's ride on Soldier of Fortune last year. Hurrying into your rabbit on the backstretch of a 12 furlong race is always intelligent.

Of course there's also Swain.

NT

Murtagh's ride on Soldier gets some amount of bad press over here as well, a way in how not to do team tactics.. but i sort of got what Coolmore were trying to do. Soldier of Fortune isnt quick, he is essentially a grinder, no turn of foot, just a real stayer. I guess they thought if they made it into a real slog from a mile out, he would be the one that would last home. If they went any slower they would be vulnerable to anyone with a turn of foot.

Still it wasnt a good ride, there was the Leger winner who basically got his dream pace scenario due to Coolmore..

Spencer's ride on Powerscourt was awful. He doubled up pretty nicely with Antonius Pius that year!

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by brockguy

Murtagh's ride on Soldier gets some amount of bad press over here as well, a way in how not to do team tactics.. but i sort of got what Coolmore were trying to do. Soldier of Fortune isnt quick, he is essentially a grinder, no turn of foot, just a real stayer. I guess they thought if they made it into a real slog from a mile out, he would be the one that would last home. If they went any slower they would be vulnerable to anyone with a turn of foot.

Still it wasnt a good ride, there was the Leger winner who basically got his dream pace scenario due to Coolmore..

Spencer ride on Powerscourt was awful. He doubled up pretty nicely with Antonius Pius that year!

Whatever their intention was that's fine but Diane Nelson would have been able to tell that they were flying in front of her and it was probably a bad idea to engage at the 5/8 pole in a 12 furlong race.

The plan to win with the best stayer is realistic when you're talking about a mid-range type pace. However, Murtagh had to have known they were cooking in front of him and whether he did or not, to me it was a terrible ride.

NT