Lava Man back in training?

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

The tin man is lucky to be alive and Gregs Gold had a bowed tendon, completely different story.

Does " lucky to be alive" mean it was OK to bring him back successfully or is just a random fact that does zero to compliment your suggestion that Lava Man shouldn't try to return to racing. Hot TV is repping a older horse who had serious issues that came back to be successful. Are you suggesting Hot TV is off base or are you suggesting Mandella is lucky? A little help here? Aren't Bowed Tendons fairly serious especially on aged geldings?

[King Glorious]

Precisionist retired for awhile and came back after a long layoff to have some pretty decent success and didn't die.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Does " lucky to be alive" mean it was OK to bring him back successfully or is just a random fact that does zero to compliment your suggestion that Lava Man shouldn't try to return to racing. Hot TV is repping a older horse who had serious issues that came back to be successful. Are you suggesting Hot TV is off base or are you suggesting Mandella is lucky? A little help here? Aren't Bowed Tendons fairly serious especially on aged geldings?

I will repeat, The Tin Man is lucky to be alive. You figure it out. And horses dont die from bowed tendons unless their owners put them down.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I will repeat, The Tin Man is lucky to be alive. You figure it out. And horses dont die from bowed tendons unless their owners put them down.

So if I am understanding you correctly HOF trainer, legendary conditioner, Richard Mandella, knowningly raced a horse that was part of his barn and personna, with an ailment that should have killed the horse. Well if this is true and I have no reason to think you are lying, there is no hope for horse racing. If one of the most respected trainers in the industry is willing to have the blood of a beloved horse on his hands then what should the public expect from run of the mill juicers trying to pay bills?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by freddymo

So if I am understanding you correctly HOF trainer, legendary conditioner, Richard Mandella, knowningly raced a horse that was part of his barn and personna, with an ailment that should have killed the horse. Well if this is true and I have no reason to think you are lying, there is no hope for horse racing. If one of the most respected trainers in the industry is willing to have the blood of a beloved horse on his hands then what should the public expect from run of the mill juicers trying to pay bills?

Ask Honu about him. She knows more about him than anyone. Ask her if they may bring him back with this new found therapy? See what she says.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Ask Honu about him. She knows more about him than anyone. Ask her if they may bring him back with this new found therapy? See what she says.

He's a moot point. The injury that led to his retirement was not directly related to running/training.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Ask Honu about him. She knows more about him than anyone. Ask her if they may bring him back with this new found therapy? See what she says.

I have no doubt that the horse will never return to his 5 year old form. I have zero doubt that greed isn't the motivation, I still think it is far from crimnal to attempt to resurrect a gelding to race competitively again. I also don't understand the outrage. It's a friggin horse that is getting premier care and would have his ballz washed for him if he had them.. If he makes it back and wins a Sunshine million type race well that would be cool. If he doesn't he can always go to the sunshine nursing and retirement assitted living home. If he dies it is way more likely to be from colic or some other type of horse ailment then snapping leg in half. If he snaps his leg in half on friggin well he is a racehorse and this happens to healthiest of horses daily. Ask Kona Gold were he would have rather died, he wouldn't care because he is a horse and horses don't contemplate death, they are horses not humans.