If Zenyatta wins the Classic

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by CrossfireHurricane

Is it true Jess Jackson bought voters with cases of wine last year and that is why Curlin got it over Zenyatta?

Maybe Moss can win it for Zenyatta this year with cases of Fiji water.

[the_fat_man]

anybody still bet in here?

anyone left?

[GPK]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

anybody still bet in here?

anyone left?

Yeah, but all the ones that bet are the ones that you either have on "iggy" (what the f*ck are you, a 12 year old girl?) or are on the top of your annoying poster list. Either way, both groups are made up of bettors that don't give a flying f*ck about your fat charts and horrible opionions.

Originally Posted by GPK

Yeah, but all the ones that bet are the ones that you either have on "iggy" (what the f*ck are you, a 12 year old girl?) or are on the top of your annoying poster list. Either way, both groups are made up of bettors that don't give a flying f*ck about your fat charts and horrible opionions.

This is a DT Hall of Fame post.

[dean smith]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

This is a DT Hall of Fame post.

I hate to disagree with you, Coach Pants. After all, you are the most electrifying poster in all of message boarding.

But I think John "The Fat Man" Campos deserves more respect. He did train Kentucky Derby winner Pleasant Colony.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by dean smith

I hate to disagree with you, Coach Pants. After all, you are the most electrifying poster in all of message boarding.

But I think John "The Fat Man" Campos deserves more respect. He did train Kentucky Derby winner Pleasant Colony.

What does training Pleasant Colony have to do with garnering respect? Chuck trained Hacker Craft, but I have a helluva lot more respect for him.

[King Glorious]

It's a closed case already but if Zenyatta were to beat a field that included Summer Bird and Mine that Bird and Macho Again (the same males Rachel beat) in addition to Rail Trip, Einstein, and whichever of the top Europeans that come over (especially if Sea the Stars was in that group), she'd get my vote if I had one. She wouldn't have accomplished as much during the entire season but I'd think she'd have proven she could beat the same horses as Rachel and even better ones.

[Gander]

I think Rachael wrapped up HOY by winning the Woodward. When was the last time any 3 year old filly had a campaign like this, and won every single start to boot? For God sakes, she won the 2nd leg of the Triple Crown by beating the KY Derby winner, then she beat the Belmont winner in the Haskell...2 races where you never see fillies run.

Sure Zenyatta always wins, she always runs against the same crop of nothings out in California. Her consistency is amazing but shes done out of the box to capture true national exposure.

I cant believe this is even a debate anymore!

[Indian Charlie]

Well, according to Tool Operator all Z has to do is workout in the morning, since she's the reigning champion.

[Linny]

I don't have a vote but if I did, and Z were to win the BCC over a field that included Sea The Stars she'sbe HOY in my book. Beating males in the "biggest race of the year" outweighs winning the Woodward/Preakness. I don't think Z could beat even the moderate crew that has been taking turns out there are year (Einstein, Rail Trip etc) but if she did, and beat Sea the Stars -esp if he ran huge in defeat- I'd give the nod to the mare.

[TropicalStorm]

Originally Posted by Linny

I don't have a vote but if I did, and Z were to win the BCC over a field that included Sea The Stars she'sbe HOY in my book. Beating males in the "biggest race of the year" outweighs winning the Woodward/Preakness. I don't think Z could beat even the moderate crew that has been taking turns out there are year (Einstein, Rail Trip etc) but if she did, and beat Sea the Stars -esp if he ran huge in defeat- I'd give the nod to the mare.

I agree. The Classic looks like it could be the best field ever assembled if the Europeans come over. It is sort of a shame Rachel is not running in it because if Sea The Stars came over and Rachel and Zenyatta were also in there than the race would be incredible. How funny would it be if Mine That Bird got a rail trip again and won the Classic against those horses.

[Gander]

Originally Posted by Linny

I don't have a vote but if I did, and Z were to win the BCC over a field that included Sea The Stars she'sbe HOY in my book. Beating males in the "biggest race of the year" outweighs winning the Woodward/Preakness. I don't think Z could beat even the moderate crew that has been taking turns out there are year (Einstein, Rail Trip etc) but if she did, and beat Sea the Stars -esp if he ran huge in defeat- I'd give the nod to the mare.

You forgot Rachel also won the Haskell over males, probably beating a better horse in Summer Bird than anything she beat in the Wood or Preakness.

Z beat Einstein? LOL. She barely gets up to beat those slowpoke fillies and mares out west. Its always the same boring lineup- Life is Sweet, Briecat, AllIcansayiswow. Big deal. How on earth could she even come close to passing Einstein (I know you agree with me, just putting this out there).

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by Gander

I cant believe this is even a debate anymore!

says a lot doesn't it?