Prior to Pioneer Of the Nile.. who was your all-time favorite Baffert trained sire

[The Indomitable DrugS]

It wasn't so long ago that Exploit and Forestry were supposed to be the hot new thing.

Exploit earlier had flexed his muscles at the Keeneland sale, where he averaged $366,250 from four yearlings. The average placed him ninth overall and second on the first-crop list, behind fellow Taylor Made stallion Forestry, whose $50,000 fee was the highest for an incoming stallion in 2000. Forestry's three yearlings averaged $443,333, nearly nine times his 2000 fee. Exploit's yearlings averaged some 12 times his fee of $30,000. Both are by Storm Cat.

[Pedigree Ann]

Silver Charm has a G1-place multiple G2 winner this year (Miss Isella), plus a fair number of SWs, including Preachinatthebar, Silver Highlight and Silver Impulse in Canada, etc., and a lot of mid level allowance/upper level claimers who earned a good bit of money, ie $100K+. But no 'headline horses' or big yearling sellers, so it was off to Japan for him. His mistake was being a top horse with an unfashionable pedigree, not a bad one (his sire was a G1 winner who had sired other G1 winners after all), and later maturing stock. And Silver Charm has sired winners in Japan already.

Vindication died after he had only one or two crops, as I recall. Isitingood died before he sired a foal (thank the racing gods; can you imagine the names his foals would be given?).

War Emblem sired something like 20% SWs in his first small crops so the Japanese have persevered with him and his more recent crops have been bigger. More good is expected from him.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Pedigree Ann

Silver Charm has a G1-place multiple G2 winner this year (Miss Isella), plus a fair number of SWs, including Preachinatthebar, Silver Highlight and Silver Impulse in Canada, etc., and a lot of mid level allowance/upper level claimers who earned a good bit of money, ie $100K+. But no 'headline horses' or big yearling sellers, so it was off to Japan for him. His mistake was being a top horse with an unfashionable pedigree, not a bad one (his sire was a G1 winner who had sired other G1 winners after all), and later maturing stock. And Silver Charm has sired winners in Japan already.

Indian Charlie is a calbred son of In Excess out of a Leo Castelli mare. You don't get anymore unfashionable a pedigree than that, so besides him being an insanely great race horse, how do you account for his success? Especially considering the truly awful books of mares he has had sent to him?

[citycat]

Had to vote Point Given since one of my mares is in foal to him. Hope the A+++ nick comes thru.........

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by citycat

Hope the A+++ nick comes thru.........

...And not the crappy confirmation?

[citycat]

Originally Posted by freddymo

...And not the crappy confirmation?

I just try to do the best I can by my mares. The Gulch line really fits this mare well so my choices are Gulch, Thunder Gulch, Point Given, Scrimshaw, The Cliffs Edge, Kipling. I went the cheaper route with Scimshaw last year and so far am pleased with the yearling. I got a pretty good deal with Point Given so I took the shot.

[2Hot4TV]

Originally Posted by freddymo

...And not the crappy confirmation?

or that slow turn of foot.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by 2Hot4TV

or that slow turn of foot.

Point Given had a slow turn of foot?

NT