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09-08-2009, 11:52 PM
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A victory in the BC Classic isn't going to rival all of RA's accomplishments... 
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09-09-2009, 08:56 AM
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Haskin sums up her accomplishments great in the article. The only filly or mare to EVER win 3 Grade 1 races against the other gender in one year. There is absolutely no way that any horse besides Rachel Alexandra is Horse of the Year this year...
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09-09-2009, 08:58 AM
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09-09-2009, 05:53 PM
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The point is being missed here. I fully understand that Rachel has locked up the title and she is a deserving candidate. The question that isn't answered though is a different one. Is she the BEST horse to run in this country this year. This gets to the point that the criteria needs to be changed. As long as it's what it is, it doesn't make sense that the best horse may not win the award. If Sea the Stars beats Zenyatta or vice versa, I would feel that the winner is the best horse to have raced in America this year and that's who'd get my vote. I don't see why it should matter what other viable candidates there are. Arazi can be a finalist but Sea the Stars can't be? Doesn't matter if there are 100 candidates worthy. The award should go to the best horse as long as that horse qualifies and the rules say one start qualifies.
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The real horses of the year (1986-2020) Manila, Java Gold, Alysheba, Sunday Silence, Go for Wand, In Excess, Paseana, Kotashaan, Holy Bull, Cigar, Alphabet Soup, Formal Gold, Skip Away, Artax, Tiznow, Point Given, Azeri, Candy Ride, Smarty Jones, Ghostzapper, Invasor, Curlin, Zenyatta, Zenyatta, Goldikova, Havre de Grace, Wise Dan, Wise Dan, California Chrome, American Pharoah, Arrogate, Gun Runner, Accelerate, Maximum Security, Gamine
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09-09-2009, 06:14 PM
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YES
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09-09-2009, 06:14 PM
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i agree, emphatically.
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09-09-2009, 06:35 PM
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Rachel is done for probably good. Sea the Stars could come over here and win the Classic by a pole and still not get many votes for HOY. He has no shot for HOY. What the heck does one race on the phoniest of surfaces prove, when after all, Richard's Kids just took down what will be just about as good a group of horses as this year's Classic will be??
Rock Hard- You really are stretching it with this one. The Quality Road thing was at least readable. Are you forgetting all the Grade 1's Rachael has won this year? The only other conceivable horse to even talk about for this award is Gio Ponti but turf horses hardly ever win this. What if he were to win on October 3rd at Belmont, then go on and win either the BC Turf or Classic?
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09-09-2009, 06:37 PM
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Forgive me if this is a stupid question as I'm not as versed in all of this as the rest of you; but shouldn't a Horse of the Year award be based on what a horse has accomplished in that year? Why would the outcome of one race, even if it's a Breeders Cup race change that?
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09-09-2009, 06:14 PM
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it's not called horse of the bcc, but horse of the year. i still don't get why everyone is talking about a matchup with zenyatta in the classic. does anyone really think she'll run there?
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09-09-2009, 06:39 PM
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Still trying to outsmart me, aren't you, mule-skinner? You want me to think that you don't want me to go down there, but the subtle truth is you really don't want me to go down there!
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