As expected Crist is the man about the girl

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Bob I hope you get one and I hope Chuck does as well. Let's dream.. You have you 3 year old filly machine you just won the logical Preakness, Haskell, Woodward. But the other champion is a turf mare are you going to the Turf Classic? Would you race a filly dirt horse on turf? Isn't Pro Ride NOT dirt the same way that Turf isnt dirt?

Why wouldnt you? What do you have to lose?

[CSC]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Why wouldnt you? What do you have to lose?

Exactly, it was brought yesterday that she won on Poly as to equal Zenyatta's record on both surfaces, I was then somewhat confusingly blasted for making some Cigar reference. Point is if it does equal Zenyatta's versatility on both surfaces, suggesting she can handle Pro-ride, why the sudden reluctance now? Which statement is more contradictory, she won at Keenland now and she cannot win at SA? I'm confused.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Why wouldnt you? What do you have to lose?

There is nothing to lose. Jess is pissed that the BC doesn't have dirt races this year. We have 3 surfaces and we used to have 2. The BC people decided that the 3rd surface was equal to dirt. It isn't. Jess thinks that sucks and so do I.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by freddymo

There is nothing to lose. Jess is pissed that the BC doesn't have dirt races this year. We have 3 surfaces and we used to have 2. The BC people decided that the 3rd surface was equal to dirt. It isn't. Jess thinks that sucks and so do I.

Totally seperate note, but we have had more issues with grass horses trying to run on poly than with horses going from dirt to poly.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by GBBob

Totally seperate note, but we have had more issues with grass horses trying to run on poly than with horses going from dirt to poly.

Call Linda Rice she will get you in contact with a good pharmacy.

[freddymo]

I happen to think Parading is a perfect example of a horse that likes POLY is OK on turf and is an allowance horse on dirt. So because he got thru his conditions on dirt but won a graded stake on poly does he handle dirt and could he be successful on dirt in the Classic? If the horse was fast on dirt he would be in the Woodward instead Shug ships to the Pac Classic if there was a(and there should be) a Poly Classic he would be a perfect horse for it.. BUT the same horse couldn't beat 62,500k claimers on dirt.

Would it make sense to run him in the dirt Classic just to say they all lose?

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by freddymo

There is nothing to lose. Jess is pissed that the BC doesn't have dirt races this year. We have 3 surfaces and we used to have 2. The BC people decided that the 3rd surface was equal to dirt. It isn't. Jess thinks that sucks and so do I.

Okay, so it sucks. Regardless, its the championhip and its going to be the last championship at Santa Anita for a while. By the time they have another one out there, Jess might be...not so interested in horse racing. I understand that he is pissed but is his personal agenda more important than the sport especially considering the comments he has made?

If he has nothing to lose, why not run? Becaue SHE might lose?

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Okay, so it sucks. Regardless, its the championhip and its going to be the last championship at Santa Anita for a while. By the time they have another one out there, Jess might be...not so interested in horse racing. I understand that he is pissed but is his personal agenda more important than the sport especially considering the comments he has made?

If he has nothing to lose, why not run? Becaue SHE might lose?

I would rather watch the BC Classic with Rachel in it then not have her there. I love all racing especially at a high level. Anybody who says the BC Classic is better without Rachel is very special.

In FANTASY LAND..IF I owned Rachel I would be very torn. I know I would have NEVER sent her to the Preakness. I actually think I would have been really happy to win the Acorn, Goose, Coaching Club and Alabama. I think after the Alabama it would be the Beldame and then the boys. In all candor I think I would have been a total *****. I give Jess a lot of credit.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Okay, so it sucks. Regardless, its the championhip and its going to be the last championship at Santa Anita for a while. By the time they have another one out there, Jess might be...not so interested in horse racing. I understand that he is pissed but is his personal agenda more important than the sport especially considering the comments he has made?

If he has nothing to lose, why not run? Becaue SHE might lose?

thank goodness.

but i also take issue with the term 'championship'. these horses run all season, this is no super bowl. it's not football where the best left standing are the ones who duke it out. she won't be the only one skipping, and i perfectly understand why jess won't bring her. it certainly doesn't tarnish everything she's done if she skips it.

where are the offended that zenyatta never shipped again since early spring? or that other top horses in their respective groups such as fabulous strike won't be there. rachel is not the horse with something to prove here.

as for what is there to lose-he wants to run her next year. what if the surface switch (which everyone recognizes can and does pose a problem for horses making said move) caused an issue for rachel, one serious enough that she couldn't run another season?

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Why wouldnt you? What do you have to lose?

pud size.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

pud size.

You think Rachel has a spare part? Maybe she is like that South American racing in womens races. Maybe that is why she crushes filly.. Rachel is really Robert..

It's up to Moss really. If they ship for the Beldame, which is highly unlikely, then Stonewall Jackson will ship for the Distaff/Classic. But then you have Moss who will probably chicken out after Rachel crushes Zenyatta at Belmont and he'll point her to the Distaff.

It just really sucks that two of the best horses in the sport are owned by such monumental a.ssholes.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

It's up to Moss really. If they ship for the Beldame, which is highly unlikely, then Stonewall Jackson will ship for the Distaff/Classic. But then you have Moss who will probably chicken out after Rachel crushes Zenyatta at Belmont and he'll point her to the Distaff.

It just really sucks that two of the best horses in the sport are owned by such monumental a.ssholes.

[Merlinsky]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

It's up to Moss really. If they ship for the Beldame, which is highly unlikely, then Stonewall Jackson will ship for the Distaff/Classic. But then you have Moss who will probably chicken out after Rachel crushes Zenyatta at Belmont and he'll point her to the Distaff.

It just really sucks that two of the best horses in the sport are owned by such monumental a.ssholes.

I wouldn't say this about the Mosses but I'm sure Jess figures a monument to him is just around the corner. I say we put it at Santa Anita.