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Old 09-04-2009, 07:58 AM
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This isn't consistent with the legacy argument that Jackson has put fwd. Plus as I have been reminded here multiple times she did win at Keeneland on polytrack, pending what she does after the Woodward, why wouldn't you want to see her race against the best at SA? How can any fan of racing not want this to happen?
Because people love dirt more than horse racing
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Old 09-04-2009, 08:18 AM
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Because people love dirt more than horse racing
Or people love speed, poly is more fair.
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Old 09-04-2009, 08:24 AM
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Or people love speed, poly is more fair.

fair to who? it's fair based on what? there are horses who have drastic changes in ability from one surface to the other-but one is fair?

poly, in all it's brand names, is a different surface. it's not dirt, it's not turf, and ability on one of those two surfaces will not indicate ability on awt. there's no correlation, there's nothing you can draw from a performance on one of those surfaces to enable you to conclude how a horse will perform when moved to a different surface. it's not an equalizer.
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Old 09-04-2009, 08:33 AM
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fair to who? it's fair based on what? there are horses who have drastic changes in ability from one surface to the other-but one is fair?

poly, in all it's brand names, is a different surface. it's not dirt, it's not turf, and ability on one of those two surfaces will not indicate ability on awt. there's no correlation, there's nothing you can draw from a performance on one of those surfaces to enable you to conclude how a horse will perform when moved to a different surface. it's not an equalizer.
Summer Bird(who has never raced on poly) and others are willing to take that risk? Why not the biggest star in the game? whose campaign is constantly being referred as a legacy in the making? Don't you want to know?
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Old 09-04-2009, 09:15 AM
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Summer Bird(who has never raced on poly) and others are willing to take that risk? Why not the biggest star in the game? whose campaign is constantly being referred as a legacy in the making? Don't you want to know?
And what is Summer Bird's risk? He is the winner of the Belmont and Travers. He is believe it or not a son of the successful stallion Birdstone. Rachel doesn't have any risk either. Risk isn't the point. It is simple Rachel may or may not be a horse that can run as well on Pro ride as she runs on dirt. Her owner wants to make a statement. I don't blame him, he is entitled to do what he wants. He believes that by standing on ceremony the BC people will recognize that we need to have the BC Classic on dirt.
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Old 09-04-2009, 10:33 AM
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Summer Bird(who has never raced on poly) and others are willing to take that risk? Why not the biggest star in the game? whose campaign is constantly being referred as a legacy in the making? Don't you want to know?
i already said if she were mine, i'd run her. but it's a call for her owners to make. just because someone else is going, doesn't make it the decision he should make for her.
hell, he decide to take on open competition, where's your posts saying ice should have done the same?
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