9/5 (SAR): Woodward (G1)

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Funny way of expressing your admiration for Rachel.

What does this say negative? That she would be odds on against any field on the dirt? How do you construe negativty about the horse from that? Did you forget your meds today?

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

What does this say negative? That she would be odds on against any field on the dirt? How do you construe negativty about the horse from that? Did you forget your meds today?

A.. Stop with logical it is not becoming.
B. you are dealing with a once in a generation horse this isnt my beloved Smarty Jones this is a premier rocket

[freddymo]

Hi may name is Cannon Shell/Iagree that Rachel is a superior horse..Not sure I have seen a filly asgood as her since PE.. This girl is a freak she refuses to lose..

[CSC]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Hi may name is Cannon Shell/Iagree that Rachel is a superior horse..Not sure I have seen a filly asgood as her since PE.. This girl is a freak she refuses to lose..

If Zenyatta was in here and she beat this field would you the same admiration for her as you would RA? Or is that admiration strictly reserved for RA?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by CSC

If Zenyatta was in here and she beat this field would you the same admiration for her as you would RA? Or is that admiration strictly reserved for RA?

I personally think RA is a superior horse to Zenyatta.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I personally think RA is a superior horse to Zenyatta.

I do too, but my point was if Zenyatta won would she be criticized for beating a tier 2 group of males that RA will no doubt be lauded for beating.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by CSC

I do too, but my point was if Zenyatta won would she be criticized for beating a tier 2 group of males that RA will no doubt be lauded for beating.

tier 2 group? Who is the tier 1 group?

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by CSC

I do too, but my point was if Zenyatta won would she be criticized for beating a tier 2 group of males that RA will no doubt be lauded for beating.

Zenyatta beats nothing and she is hailed as the Queen - so yes, probably.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by CSC

I do too, but my point was if Zenyatta won would she be criticized for beating a tier 2 group of males that RA will no doubt be lauded for beating.

Why would that happen?

If you're trying to say that the competition Zenyatta has faced is unfairly criticized then I couldn't possibly disagree more. The horses Zenyatta beat last time out are not good.

NT

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by CSC

I do too, but my point was if Zenyatta won would she be criticized for beating a tier 2 group of males that RA will no doubt be lauded for beating.

since many are saying it's not a good field of older horses, and the race is made for rachel due to her morning line, i don't see how she'll be lauded if she wins...except for the fact she'll have done something no filly ever has done, win the woodward.

things is, years from now the field won't be mentioned-no one remembers anyone but the winner. it's the main reason why i say you can't judge a horses standing until their done and gone to pasture for a while. the great ones are the ones you remember.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by CSC

I do too, but my point was if Zenyatta won would she be criticized for beating a tier 2 group of males that RA will no doubt be lauded for beating.

that is so not true. If we ever got the chance to see Zenyatta race against anything but that crappy division she races in EVERY sSingle race she would get the respect she deserves.

Its more distain against Zenyatta's connections for not letting us fans and race followers see how good she truely is. You cant prove anything in the races she's been running in besides the BC Distaff.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by CSC

If Zenyatta was in here and she beat this field would you the same admiration for her as you would RA? Or is that admiration strictly reserved for RA?

i wish she was there. that way, instead of us all talking about it, we could see it all unfold. it would launch zenyatta into the same stratosphere that rachel is currently residing.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i wish she was there. that way, instead of us all talking about it, we could see it all unfold. it would launch zenyatta into the same stratosphere that rachel is currently residing.

I already replied to you on the other thread, I am tired but yes it would launch her, however those connections have their own ideas. A real shame.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by CSC

I already replied to you on the other thread, I am tired but yes it would launch her, however those connections have their own ideas. A real shame.

yeah, it really is a shame. her win streak is pretty cool-but i almost feel like zenyatta is being cheated in a way. maybe if/when she ties personal ensign, they'll try something new with her.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Hi may name is Cannon Shell/Iagree that Rachel is a superior horse..Not sure I have seen a filly asgood as her since PE.. This girl is a freak she refuses to lose..

Hi my name is Freddy, I am a logic hater. I hated philosophy. I hate that damn Spock. I used logic when defending Paragallo and look where THAT got me.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Hi my name is Freddy, I am a logic hater. I hated philosophy. I hate that damn Spock. I used logic when defending Paragallo and look where THAT got me.

I love Spock. Always thought Capt. Kirk was a bit of a blow hard.

I didn't defend Paragallo per say I thought it was impossible for a human who was earning from horses to knowingly starve them.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by freddymo

A.. Stop with logical it is not becoming.
B. you are dealing with a once in a generation horse this isnt my beloved Smarty Jones this is a premier rocket

You continue to make my point for me. If you are in charge of a once in a generation horse why wouldnt the Haskell and Woodward be logical spots? You do understand the meaning of logical dont you? Or maybe i will put it to you in a different manner. What is illogical about her competing in those races?

[ddthetide]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

You continue to make my point for me. If you are in charge of a once in a generation horse why wouldnt the Haskell and Woodward be logical spots? You do understand the meaning of logical dont you? Or maybe i will put it to you in a different manner. What is illogical about her competing in those races?

CS, why do you argue with freddy? he knows sooo much more about racing than you do.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by ddthetide

CS, why do you argue with freddy? he knows sooo much more about racing than you do.

Freddy is no dummy when it comes to racing (except concerning his love affair with Shug/Phipps) but he seems to think that running a horse in a spot where they are the overwhelming fav isnt a logical spot. I think that harping on the fact that she is a three year old filly marginalizes her at this point. She isnt simply a great three year old filly. She is the best horse in America, therefore the best races which the Haskell and Woodward represent are logical spots. It is unheard of in sports which is the reason that he persists in arguing. If a Woman version of Usain Bolt was winning in faster times than the men wouldnt it be logical that she would challenge men sprinters? Wouldnt she become a way bigger star by beating men and becoming the worlds fastest human rather than persisting in beating upon the overmatched girls?

[CSC]

Originally Posted by ddthetide

CS, why do you argue with freddy? he knows sooo much more about racing than you do.

Oh thank you...that means so much to me.

Freddy obviously knows alot about racing, that is why I bother talking with him so I can set him straight.


Edit-You mean't Cannon, my mistake. It's getting late...