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Old 09-03-2009, 06:17 PM
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Aside from running on the turf or Synthetic, what dirt race is out there right now that RA wouldn't be an overwhelming favorite?
Which is exactly my point. So when people say how courageous it is of Jackson to run in the Woodward remember that.
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Old 09-03-2009, 06:47 PM
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Which is exactly my point. So when people say how courageous it is of Jackson to run in the Woodward remember that.
Funny way of expressing your admiration for Rachel.
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Old 09-03-2009, 09:20 PM
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Funny way of expressing your admiration for Rachel.
What does this say negative? That she would be odds on against any field on the dirt? How do you construe negativty about the horse from that? Did you forget your meds today?
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Old 09-03-2009, 09:23 PM
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What does this say negative? That she would be odds on against any field on the dirt? How do you construe negativty about the horse from that? Did you forget your meds today?
A.. Stop with logical it is not becoming.
B. you are dealing with a once in a generation horse this isnt my beloved Smarty Jones this is a premier rocket
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Old 09-03-2009, 09:25 PM
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Hi may name is Cannon Shell/Iagree that Rachel is a superior horse..Not sure I have seen a filly asgood as her since PE.. This girl is a freak she refuses to lose..
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Old 09-03-2009, 09:40 PM
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Hi may name is Cannon Shell/Iagree that Rachel is a superior horse..Not sure I have seen a filly asgood as her since PE.. This girl is a freak she refuses to lose..
If Zenyatta was in here and she beat this field would you the same admiration for her as you would RA? Or is that admiration strictly reserved for RA?
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Old 09-03-2009, 09:47 PM
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If Zenyatta was in here and she beat this field would you the same admiration for her as you would RA? Or is that admiration strictly reserved for RA?
I personally think RA is a superior horse to Zenyatta.
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Old 09-03-2009, 10:01 PM
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If Zenyatta was in here and she beat this field would you the same admiration for her as you would RA? Or is that admiration strictly reserved for RA?

i wish she was there. that way, instead of us all talking about it, we could see it all unfold. it would launch zenyatta into the same stratosphere that rachel is currently residing.
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Old 09-03-2009, 09:45 PM
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Hi may name is Cannon Shell/Iagree that Rachel is a superior horse..Not sure I have seen a filly asgood as her since PE.. This girl is a freak she refuses to lose..
Hi my name is Freddy, I am a logic hater. I hated philosophy. I hate that damn Spock. I used logic when defending Paragallo and look where THAT got me.
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Old 09-04-2009, 06:44 AM
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Hi my name is Freddy, I am a logic hater. I hated philosophy. I hate that damn Spock. I used logic when defending Paragallo and look where THAT got me.
I love Spock. Always thought Capt. Kirk was a bit of a blow hard.

I didn't defend Paragallo per say I thought it was impossible for a human who was earning from horses to knowingly starve them.
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Old 09-03-2009, 09:43 PM
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A.. Stop with logical it is not becoming.
B. you are dealing with a once in a generation horse this isnt my beloved Smarty Jones this is a premier rocket
You continue to make my point for me. If you are in charge of a once in a generation horse why wouldnt the Haskell and Woodward be logical spots? You do understand the meaning of logical dont you? Or maybe i will put it to you in a different manner. What is illogical about her competing in those races?
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Old 09-03-2009, 09:56 PM
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You continue to make my point for me. If you are in charge of a once in a generation horse why wouldnt the Haskell and Woodward be logical spots? You do understand the meaning of logical dont you? Or maybe i will put it to you in a different manner. What is illogical about her competing in those races?
CS, why do you argue with freddy? he knows sooo much more about racing than you do.
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Old 09-03-2009, 10:05 PM
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CS, why do you argue with freddy? he knows sooo much more about racing than you do.
Freddy is no dummy when it comes to racing (except concerning his love affair with Shug/Phipps) but he seems to think that running a horse in a spot where they are the overwhelming fav isnt a logical spot. I think that harping on the fact that she is a three year old filly marginalizes her at this point. She isnt simply a great three year old filly. She is the best horse in America, therefore the best races which the Haskell and Woodward represent are logical spots. It is unheard of in sports which is the reason that he persists in arguing. If a Woman version of Usain Bolt was winning in faster times than the men wouldnt it be logical that she would challenge men sprinters? Wouldnt she become a way bigger star by beating men and becoming the worlds fastest human rather than persisting in beating upon the overmatched girls?
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Old 09-03-2009, 10:16 PM
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CS, why do you argue with freddy? he knows sooo much more about racing than you do.
Oh thank you...that means so much to me.

Freddy obviously knows alot about racing, that is why I bother talking with him so I can set him straight.


Edit-You mean't Cannon, my mistake. It's getting late...
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Old 09-04-2009, 06:57 AM
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You continue to make my point for me. If you are in charge of a once in a generation horse why wouldnt the Haskell and Woodward be logical spots? You do understand the meaning of logical dont you? Or maybe i will put it to you in a different manner. What is illogical about her competing in those races?

The Woodward is a very agressive spot and risky.You own a 3 year old filly that seems to be indestructable. She has beaten the best 3 year old males twice. It is a very "sporting" thing for racing for Rachel to attempt to win the Woodward. You say what do you mean she is the ML favorite, why the heck is this just another good spot for her. Which in my opinion totally misses essence of what she and her connections are doing for racing.

Think about it this way the Sherriffs and the Moss's still haven't tried a huge mare that is plenty good against anything but the sofest logical spots. And you have people like Ron Ellis applauding the process. A filly running in the Woodward is special.

Just read the Crist piece unlike me who cant but a cogent thought on paper to save my life Crist realizes the magnitude of the campaign.
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