Summer Bird pointed for The BC

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by jms62

If the race is at distance and at a Track having a bias that heavily favors RA you are right. Any other Distance / Track it is a moot point becuase RA won't be there.

The track was fair to all styles in the Haskell.

Originally Posted by jms62

She is being managed not to ever be put in a situation that isn't heavily tilted in her favor. This won't be lost on those voting for HOY.

Yes ... they will surely be more impressed with Zenyatta for ducking the Hollywood Gold Cup while her stablemate Life Is Sweet was entered .. so she could take on laughing stock competition of her own gender.

[parsixfarms]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

The track was fair to all styles in the Haskell.

The rail was not the place to be that day. Summer Bird pressed the pace on the worst part of the track.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by parsixfarms

The rail was not the place to be that day. Summer Bird pressed the pace on the worst part of the track.

The rail was probably where you wanted to be if anything.

I thought Borel was smart to get RA right on top of the rail turning for home - and finish on it.

Duke of Mischief saved ground throughout and finished just 2.5 lengths back of Summer Bird.

[parsixfarms]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

The rail was probably where you wanted to be if anything.

I thought Borel was smart to get RA right on top of the rail turning for home - and finish on it.

Duke of Mischief saved ground throughout and finished just 2.5 lengths back of Summer Bird.

After the heavy rains came, horses racing off the rail appeared to have a distinct advantage. While non-favored winners such as Jersey Town, Actin Good, Endymion and D'Wild Ride all took the overland route to victory, short-priced speedsters such as Despite the Odds, Sunday Geisha and Man of Danger did not fare well racing inside.

Where Rachel ran in the stretch was of no consequence given her superiority that day.

No-factor Papa Clem offered a mild rally outside; no-factor Duke of Mischief offered a mild rally inside. Neither probably means anything in terms of trying to assess preferred paths that day.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by parsixfarms

No-factor Papa Clem offered a mild rally outside; no-factor Duke of Mischief offered a mild rally inside. Neither probably means anything in terms of trying to assess preferred paths that day.

The Haskell was race 13. The winners of races 11, 12 and 14 all raced inside.

Summer Bird and Duke of Mischief were certainly not hindered by any path bias. After the rain came much earlier in the day it appeared that the outside might have offered a little better footing .. but as the day went on and track was taken care of.. the inside was just fine at the very least.

[parsixfarms]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

The Haskell was race 13. The winners of races 11, 12 and 14 all raced inside.

I guess we may have to agree to disagree. But Get Serious winning at 3-5 by a neck over a turf horse like Kiss the Kid after getting away with a 49 half probably does not support the conclusion that the rail was OK. If anything, under the circumstances (and his previously shown affinity for slop at Monmouth), you'd probably expect him to win by a wider margin.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by parsixfarms

Get Serious winning at 3-5 by a neck over a turf horse like Kiss the Kid

The last two dirt Beyers Get Serious ran were 82 and 69. The last two dirt Beyers Kiss The Kid ran were 93 and 99.

Kiss The Kid was 2-for-2 on wet tracks with Beyers of 101 and 99. Get Serious was 1-for-3 on wet tracks.

Originally Posted by parsixfarms

after getting away with a 49 half probably does not support the conclusion that the rail was OK.

Get Serious wasn't exactly loose .. Kiss The Kid was a half length back.

Originally Posted by parsixfarms

If anything, under the circumstances (and his previously shown affinity for slop at Monmouth), you'd probably expect him to win by a wider margin.

Get Serious ran a 69 Beyer the last time he raced on a wet Monmouth Park track.

I didn't expect Get Serious to beat Kiss the Kid by any margin even with the pace advantage and inside position. Get Serious is a turf horse.

Since Forbes has taken over the training of Get Serious .. he's run Beyers of 97, 101, and 103 in his 3 turf races.

[parsixfarms]

Originally Posted by parsixfarms

If anything, under the circumstances (and his previously shown affinity for slop at Monmouth), you'd probably expect him to win by a wider margin.

You're right on this horse. I confused him with Actin Good (winner on BC undercard).