Summer Bird pointed for The BC

[CSC]

Originally Posted by Gander

She already blasted Summer Bird in what will be their only head to head matchup and shares 1 triple crown race win with Summer Bird.

As I keep reminding people that is only one race, many great horses have been "blasted" once only to redeem themselves later on. Frankly it is a tiresome argument to constantly refer the Haskell as the only and true measuring stick that RA is 10 lengths better than SB. If she shows up at SA in the Classic or Belmont for the JCGC, I suspect alot people will start to see the light.

One thing we do know, the connections are sporting and not scared to showcase their horse anywhere, anytime. Even on a foreign surface.

[slotdirt]

When he runs a bang up fourth to two Euros and Tiago, will we still be applauding this decision? In any event, Summer Bird was a pretty easy horse to root for like four months ago. Plus, Summer Bird >>>>>> Dunkirk.

[Gander]

Originally Posted by CSC

As I keep reminding people that is only one race, many great horses have been "blasted" once only to redeem themselves later on. Frankly it is a tiresome argument to constantly refer the Haskell as the only and true measuring stick that RA is 10 lengths better than SB. If she shows up at SA in the Classic or Belmont for the JCGC, I suspect alot people will start to see the light.

One thing we do know, the connections are sporting and not scared to showcase their horse anywhere, anytime. Even on a foreign surface.

I'm not saying Summer Bird isnt capable of beating Rachel in a rematch, if one was to take place, but do you really think a rematch will happen? What more does rachel have to prove? If she wins this weekend, she will have dominated 3 year old fillies, 3 year old males (twice) and older males (given a likely romp in the Woodward). The only thing left for her to take on is older fillies and mares. Why on earth would her connections entertain the idea of the Jockey Club when all it would be is a collection of who she has already beaten?

[CSC]

Originally Posted by Gander

I'm not saying Summer Bird isnt capable of beating Rachel in a rematch, if one was to take place, but do you really think a rematch will happen? What more does rachel have to prove? If she wins this weekend, she will have dominated 3 year old fillies, 3 year old males (twice) and older males (given a likely romp in the Woodward). The only thing left for her to take on is older fillies and mares. Why on earth would her connections entertain the idea of the Jockey Club when all it would be is a collection of who she has already beaten?

I agree on one point, Jess Jackson will not risk RA's reputation unless a horse can threaten her for HOY. Whether one agrees with the BC format or not, it was designed for determining year end honors and historically more times than not it has.

[Gander]

Originally Posted by CSC

I agree on one point, Jess Jackson will not risk RA's reputation unless a horse can threaten her for HOY. Whether one agrees with the BC format or not, it was designed for determining year end honors and historically more times than not it has.

I also dont think its a given that Summer Bird is just going to win easily again, this time in the Jockey Club Gold Cup. I will take a shot he gets beat by an older horse in this spot.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by Gander

I also dont think its a given that Summer Bird is just going to win easily again, this time in the Jockey Club Gold Cup. I will take a shot he gets beat by an older horse in this spot.

No it isn't but I really have a good feeling of him at Belmont if the JCGC is his target and it would make the most sense, we know he likes the track and 1 1/4.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by CSC

I agree on one point, Jess Jackson will not risk RA's reputation unless a horse can threaten her for HOY. Whether one agrees with the BC format or not, it was designed for determining year end honors and historically more times than not it has.

this is freaking crazy? Not risk her reputation? he's only run her in the toughest spots possible. my lord.

[Sightseek]

Their Rachel sauce kicks your ass from start to finish.

[SundayStar]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

Their Rachel sauce kicks your ass from start to finish.

nice

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by CSC

I agree on one point, the Moss's will not risk Zenyatta's reputation unless God threatens her for HOY. Whether one agrees with the Moss's or not, they are pussies..

I FTFY as well!

[CSC]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

I FTFY as well!

I must be slow with the new terminology what is FTFY?

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by CSC

I must be slow with the new terminology what is FTFY?

Yeah, no problem. First time someone did the FTFY on me, I thought it was something like "Fugg T---, Fugg You"

It really means though Fixed That For You.

fixed that for you.

Buffalo Wild Wings is introducing a new wings sauce called Zenyatta. It starts off bland but finishes with a zesty kick that will make your taste buds explode.

[asudevil]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

fixed that for you.

Buffalo Wild Wings is introducing a new wings sauce called Zenyatta. It starts off bland but finishes with a zesty kick that will make your taste buds explode.

Coach,

You get my vote for Avatar of the decade.

[tector]

Originally Posted by CSC

As I keep reminding people that is only one race, many great horses have been "blasted" once only to redeem themselves later on. Frankly it is a tiresome argument to constantly refer the Haskell as the only and true measuring stick that RA is 10 lengths better than SB. If she shows up at SA in the Classic or Belmont for the JCGC, I suspect alot people will start to see the light.

One thing we do know, the connections are sporting and not scared to showcase their horse anywhere, anytime. Even on a foreign surface.

Like they have a choice. Forget about HOY--they could lose could 3YO honors if MTB wins the Classic (seems doubtful right now, but let's see a race first), or if QR wins it after winning his next race. People will, rightly, forgive QR's rush-job Travers very quickly if he moves forward. There is also the matter of a huge purse to be had. In short, it is a freaking business. And their decision is a business decision.

And right now I'd take IP over any 3YO colt, too. Quit getting a boner over this group. It may be the case that the three best dirt horses in the US, routing at least, are all female (can't be really say with certainty about Zenyatta, since her lone dirt appearance was 1.5 years ago). That would be pretty cool.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by tector

Like they have a choice. Forget about HOY--they could lose could 3YO honors if MTB wins the Classic (seems doubtful right now, but let's see a race first), or if QR wins it after winning his next race. People will, rightly, forgive QR's rush-job Travers very quickly if he moves forward. There is also the matter of a huge purse to be had. In short, it is a freaking business. And their decision is a business decision.

And right now I'd take IP over any 3YO colt, too. Quit getting a boner over this group. It may be the case that the three best dirt horses in the US, routing at least, are all female (can't be really say with certainty about Zenyatta, since her lone dirt appearance was 1.5 years ago). That would be pretty cool.

If MTB wins another race on dirt/poly in 09 I'll fall off my chair...I like the horse(after his derby win I was one of the first to say it was not a fluke) but it seems his supporter(s) fail to see he has had more excuses than just about any other horse running today. Which speaks to his need to have many uncontrollable factors to go his way before he can succeed. Does anyone want to bet an underlaid former derby winner? I can think of only one person here who would...

[SniperSB23]

Why are we discussing Summer Bird winning the BC Classic? He is, quite simply, too slow to possibly beat the European horses that will come over on the synthetic. Da Tara is more likely to win the Woodward than Summer Bird is to win the BC Classic.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by CSC

As I keep reminding people that is only one race, many great horses have been "blasted" once only to redeem themselves later on. Frankly it is a tiresome argument to constantly refer to Rachel Alexandra not running in the Breeders Cup. If she shows up at Belmont for the JCGC, I suspect I will start to see the light.

One thing we do know, the connections of RA are sporting and not scared to showcase their horse anywhere, except for a surface that figures to put her at a huge disadvantage.

FTFY!