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Old 08-28-2009, 08:46 AM
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That is not realistic. The problems there are not related to concentration on our part.

we went into afganistan and then pretty much ignored it while focusing much of our attentions on iraq. that was a mistake. we may well have a peacekeeping force in there by now, but i feel that we wouldn't be dealing with the steady erosion in that country since we first invaded.


at any rate, iraq was a mistake-a huge mistake. it peeled away military assets and attention. it's cost trillions, and it has contributed to the rise of iran and has destabilized that region even more than it already was. all it's done has cost us.
bush wasted any goodwill or feelings of empathy after 9/11 by pushing this war on iraq. i remember how most of the world reacted after the towers collapsed. our foreign affairs are a far cry from then-when we went from a country that had been attacked and had every right to defense, to a bully who thought it could do whatever the hell it wanted, wherever it wanted.
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Old 08-28-2009, 09:23 AM
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we went into afganistan and then pretty much ignored it while focusing much of our attentions on iraq. that was a mistake. we may well have a peacekeeping force in there by now, but i feel that we wouldn't be dealing with the steady erosion in that country since we first invaded.


at any rate, iraq was a mistake-a huge mistake. it peeled away military assets and attention. it's cost trillions, and it has contributed to the rise of iran and has destabilized that region even more than it already was. all it's done has cost us.
bush wasted any goodwill or feelings of empathy after 9/11 by pushing this war on iraq. i remember how most of the world reacted after the towers collapsed. our foreign affairs are a far cry from then-when we went from a country that had been attacked and had every right to defense, to a bully who thought it could do whatever the hell it wanted, wherever it wanted.
I think the media may have forgotten it but it is a difficult place to win. Ask the Russians. Bush's biggest mistake in my view was his insistence that democracy would be able to overcome radicalsim. Radicals will always rule the roost in places like Afganastan because there is just not alot of good things happening there in the best of times.

We talk about racism in our country as though we have a monopoly on it. The discrimination in Iraq between different sects of the same religion is far worse than anything we encounter in our country. Democracy needs to have all people to agree to have an equal vote. That will never happen in Iraq. Why they thought it could is a mystery.
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Old 08-28-2009, 01:23 PM
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May not be the right thread......But creating jobs in the long run, huh?

Well Whirlpool has announced its closing the Evansville plant. Add 1100 to the unemployment list. Fantastic!!!!
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Old 08-28-2009, 06:44 PM
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May not be the right thread......But creating jobs in the long run, huh?

Well Whirlpool has announced its closing the Evansville plant. Add 1100 to the unemployment list. Fantastic!!!!
So, you think this is Bush's fault? That's pretty unfair.
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Old 08-28-2009, 07:22 PM
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So, you think this is Bush's fault? That's pretty unfair.

You think the country wants Government Health Care. That's delusional....
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Old 08-28-2009, 11:51 PM
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You think the country wants Government Health Care. That's delusional....
No, the country wants health care reform. That's a little different.

Being a birther is quite delusional, though.

Also delusional: I was watching a video of Michele Bachmann's town hall today - this guy gets up and says, "I'm not crazy, I have conservative Christian values, and I'm afraid, after 4 or 8 years, that this administration will not leave the White House, and we'll have to use force to get them out".

This whackjob actually thinks the President of the United States will barricade himself in the White House and physically refuse to leave.

What a sad, sad fantasy world some citizens of this country live in. It is downright scary, the mentally unstable that are coming out of the woodwork.
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No, the country wants health care reform. That's a little different.

Being a birther is quite delusional, though.

Also delusional: I was watching a video of Michele Bachmann's town hall today - this guy gets up and says, "I'm not crazy, I have conservative Christian values, and I'm afraid, after 4 or 8 years, that this administration will not leave the White House, and we'll have to use force to get them out".

This whackjob actually thinks the President of the United States will barricade himself in the White House and physically refuse to leave.

What a sad, sad fantasy world some citizens of this country live in. It is downright scary, the mentally unstable that are coming out of the woodwork.
It must be AT LEAST a full-time job being you!....you are all over the place.
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Old 08-29-2009, 07:25 AM
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What a sad, sad fantasy world some citizens of this country live in. It is downright scary, the mentally unstable that are coming out of the woodwork.
They've been out for a while in fact there is a former President who actually believes Israel is the 'worst' perpetrator of human right violations on earth. He believes Israel is even worse than Rwanda.

That is mentally unstable at best and anti-Semitic hate at worst.

PS you seem to do your best work after 2am. You know when the mentally unstable are still up hearing those voices.
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No, the country wants health care reform. That's a little different.

Being a birther is quite delusional, though.

Also delusional: I was watching a video of Michele Bachmann's town hall today - this guy gets up and says, "I'm not crazy, I have conservative Christian values, and I'm afraid, after 4 or 8 years, that this administration will not leave the White House, and we'll have to use force to get them out".

This whackjob actually thinks the President of the United States will barricade himself in the White House and physically refuse to leave.

What a sad, sad fantasy world some citizens of this country live in. It is downright scary, the mentally unstable that are coming out of the woodwork.

that is sad.
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Also delusional: I was watching a video of Michele Bachmann's town hall today - this guy gets up and says, "I'm not crazy, I have conservative Christian values, and I'm afraid, after 4 or 8 years, that this administration will not leave the White House, and we'll have to use force to get them out".
Wow, are you sure this is accurate, Riot?


Not even a con can be that stupid...
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No, the country wants health care reform. That's a little different.

Being a birther is quite delusional, though.

Also delusional: I was watching a video of Michele Bachmann's town hall today - this guy gets up and says, "I'm not crazy, I have conservative Christian values, and I'm afraid, after 4 or 8 years, that this administration will not leave the White House, and we'll have to use force to get them out".

This whackjob actually thinks the President of the United States will barricade himself in the White House and physically refuse to leave.

What a sad, sad fantasy world some citizens of this country live in. It is downright scary, the mentally unstable that are coming out of the woodwork.
there are 2 different world's in america. the rapidly shrinking rational one and this:

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationwo...,2720417.story

we can make fun of the delusional all we want but the fact is a significant minority is actually arming themselves for armageddon. they really believe glenn beck and dismiss anything else as msm lies. despite the fact that dems threw in the towel on gun control years ago.
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