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Old 08-26-2009, 09:39 AM
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Would you like to wager on whether or not they make the playoffs? 50 dollars?
What's my tab with you? $100? I'll bet $80 against that $100 that the Packers win at least as many games as the Vikings this year. If you want we can split it up into two $40 against $50 bets and you can placate your Cutlerboner and have the Bears against the Packers in the second bet.

Aaron Rodgers > Bret Favre > Rex Grossman > Jay Cutler
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Old 08-26-2009, 09:44 AM
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What's my tab with you? $100? I'll bet $80 against that $100 that the Packers win at least as many games as the Vikings this year. If you want we can split it up into two $40 against $50 bets and you can placate your Cutlerboner and have the Bears against the Packers in the second bet.

Aaron Rodgers > Bret Favre > Rex Grossman > Jay Cutler
You think the Packers are going to have more wins then the Bears?

Do you watch football?
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Old 08-26-2009, 09:58 AM
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You think the Packers are going to have more wins then the Bears?

Do you watch football?
Yes, and I think the Packers are going to be very good this year. Aaron Rodgers looks really good this preseason and I think he's going to have a great year this year finally having an offseason knowing that he was the man. They had 7 losses by 4 points or less last year which is tied for the second most in NFL history. Most of that was on the defense but expect their defense to be vastly improved this year with Dom Capers. First year with Dom Capers as defensive coordinator:

1992 - Pittsburgh - improved from 22nd to 2nd
1999 - Jacksonsville - improved from 17th to 1st
2006 - Miami - improved from 15th to 5th

If he can improve the Packers from the 22nd defense to the 14th that already turns 4 of those 7 losses into wins and makes them a 10 win team. If he does more than that and the offense improves it could be an 11 or 12 win team.
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Old 08-26-2009, 10:19 AM
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Yes, and I think the Packers are going to be very good this year. Aaron Rodgers looks really good this preseason and I think he's going to have a great year this year finally having an offseason knowing that he was the man. They had 7 losses by 4 points or less last year which is tied for the second most in NFL history. Most of that was on the defense but expect their defense to be vastly improved this year with Dom Capers. First year with Dom Capers as defensive coordinator:

1992 - Pittsburgh - improved from 22nd to 2nd
1999 - Jacksonsville - improved from 17th to 1st
2006 - Miami - improved from 15th to 5th

If he can improve the Packers from the 22nd defense to the 14th that already turns 4 of those 7 losses into wins and makes them a 10 win team. If he does more than that and the offense improves it could be an 11 or 12 win team.
The Packers will be decent this year, only because their offense is awesome. That alone will keep them in games, but their defense is very questionable. A completely new system without a bunch of rocket scientists, where I expect them to get better later in the season, but it will be too late
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Old 08-26-2009, 10:27 AM
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The Packers will be decent this year, only because their offense is awesome. That alone will keep them in games, but their defense is very questionable. A completely new system without a bunch of rocket scientists, where I expect them to get better later in the season, but it will be too late
A 3-4 defense is dependent on a stud nose tackle. I think BJ Raji can be that guy. Even if Nick Barnett isn't back 100% this year they will still have a good defense, if he comes back strong they could be really good.
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Old 08-26-2009, 10:31 AM
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The Packers will be decent this year, only because their offense is awesome. That alone will keep them in games, but their defense is very questionable. A completely new system without a bunch of rocket scientists, where I expect them to get better later in the season, but it will be too late
Tom...it might be questionable....but they look very good defensively so far. I think there question mark is the running game. It wouldn't surprise me if they take the division. It also wouldn't surprise me if the Vikes fall to 3rd.
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Old 08-26-2009, 11:06 AM
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Tom...it might be questionable....but they look very good defensively so far. I think there question mark is the running game. It wouldn't surprise me if they take the division. It also wouldn't surprise me if the Vikes fall to 3rd.
IT IS THE PRESEASON.

Personally, I think Packers and Bears fans love the fact that the Vikings got Favre, the Bears have owned him in his late years, and the Packers game will be epic because that defense is going to be so fired up, and Favre, regardless of what he says, wants to beat them BAD!!

So what I wanted to say was that I think Favre will do more harm then good
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IT IS THE PRESEASON.

Personally, I think Packers and Bears fans love the fact that the Vikings got Favre, the Bears have owned him in his late years, and the Packers game will be epic because that defense is going to be so fired up, and Favre, regardless of what he says, wants to beat them BAD!!

So what I wanted to say was that I think Favre will do more harm then good
Bears are getting burned in the secondary. But I'm going to put that in the IT IS THE PRESEASON category, NOT!!!!. Granted what the Packers have played have been creampuffs so far, but so is the potential on the schedule. I'm going to go with Dom Capers history and their personel.
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IT IS THE PRESEASON.

Personally, I think Packers and Bears fans love the fact that the Vikings got Favre, the Bears have owned him in his late years, and the Packers game will be epic because that defense is going to be so fired up, and Favre, regardless of what he says, wants to beat them BAD!!

So what I wanted to say was that I think Favre will do more harm then good
So how about that Packer D?

(It makes me sick that I have to mention this)
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Old 08-26-2009, 04:37 PM
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Yes, and I think the Packers are going to be very good this year. Aaron Rodgers looks really good this preseason and I think he's going to have a great year this year finally having an offseason knowing that he was the man. They had 7 losses by 4 points or less last year which is tied for the second most in NFL history. Most of that was on the defense but expect their defense to be vastly improved this year with Dom Capers. First year with Dom Capers as defensive coordinator:

1992 - Pittsburgh - improved from 22nd to 2nd
1999 - Jacksonsville - improved from 17th to 1st
2006 - Miami - improved from 15th to 5th

If he can improve the Packers from the 22nd defense to the 14th that already turns 4 of those 7 losses into wins and makes them a 10 win team. If he does more than that and the offense improves it could be an 11 or 12 win team.
The Capers factor is legit, the defence will be much improved. I think Rogers will have a big year with this division going down to the wire.
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Yes, and I think the Packers are going to be very good this year. Aaron Rodgers looks really good this preseason and I think he's going to have a great year this year finally having an offseason knowing that he was the man. They had 7 losses by 4 points or less last year which is tied for the second most in NFL history. Most of that was on the defense but expect their defense to be vastly improved this year with Dom Capers. First year with Dom Capers as defensive coordinator:

1992 - Pittsburgh - improved from 22nd to 2nd
1999 - Jacksonsville - improved from 17th to 1st
2006 - Miami - improved from 15th to 5th

If he can improve the Packers from the 22nd defense to the 14th that already turns 4 of those 7 losses into wins and makes them a 10 win team. If he does more than that and the offense improves it could be an 11 or 12 win team.
Defense wound up #2 in the NFL. Capers is a miracle worker.
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Defense wound up #2 in the NFL. Capers is a miracle worker.

soft schedule sniper they are not that good
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Old 01-06-2010, 12:18 PM
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soft schedule sniper they are not that good
lol...gimme a break Marty. They are as good as anyone not named San Diego in the NFL right now. Have you even watched them play outside of the Monday night loss to Minny?
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Old 01-06-2010, 12:31 PM
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soft schedule sniper they are not that good
No softer than Minnesota or Arizona and they are quite good. Maybe not AFC good but definitely could win the NFC.
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No softer than Minnesota or Arizona and they are quite good. Maybe not AFC good but definitely could win the NFC.

i wasn't talking about the team , i was talking just about the "d"

bob i watched the whole pittsburgh game 2 weeks ago , is that really a championship d?

rogers can carry them for a couple of wins no question about it , but , is the "d" really good eneough to take them all the way ....that is what i am talking about
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You think the Packers are going to have more wins then the Bears?

Do you watch football?
good Comedy..........not to pick on you Tom but this thread has some classic stuff in it. Really I just bumped this for Dahla who has bumped it every week, I'm just saving her the trouble.
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Old 12-14-2009, 07:09 AM
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good Comedy..........not to pick on you Tom but this thread has some classic stuff in it. Really I just bumped this for Dahla who has bumped it every week, I'm just saving her the trouble.
Thank you Tom for digging up THAT gem..See you in Pittsburgh Sunday. Are you going to the game?
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Thank you Tom for digging up THAT gem..See you in Pittsburgh Sunday. Are you going to the game?
I have tickets but I'm debating going to Philly Park to see K&S run. Will not be leaving till Sunday morning if I do that. PM me your plans and maybe we can catch up for a meal or adult beverage.
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Maybe it's just Sunday Night Football but Minnesota looks almost as bad tonight as they did two weeks ago against Arizona. This isn't even a marginally good team tonight that's man-handling them.

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Old 12-20-2009, 10:01 PM
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Maybe it's just Sunday Night Football but Minnesota looks almost as bad tonight as they did two weeks ago against Arizona. This isn't even a marginally good team tonight that's man-handling them.

NT

the OL looks horrible thus favre can't do jack and AP ain't running either

the defense was never an issue with this team , jake the sanke was burying them early in the year , not so much now
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