Leading Trainer / Jockey 2 weeks to go

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by postpicker

Linda is across Nelson avenue at the harness track. The barn is right by the entrance to walk across the street to Claire Court. Other trainers that are stabled at the harness track incluse Jeff Odintz, Rodrigo Ubillo, Greg DePrima, Bernardo Callejas and a barn full of horses for Gary Contessa.

thx for the info postpicker i knew there were other trainers off of NYRA grounds as well during the meet, just didn't know who they were

[Gander]

Originally Posted by gales0678

thx for the info postpicker i knew there were other trainers off of NYRA grounds as well during the meet, just didn't know who they were

Hey Gales, can you tell me why she moved her barns over here this year? Do you have that information? We all know she is the Queen of turf sprints, that comes as no shocker, but her recent success on dirt and longer turf races, does this surprise you?

[parsixfarms]

Originally Posted by Gander

Hey Gales, can you tell me why she moved her barns over here this year? Do you have that information? We all know she is the Queen of turf sprints, that comes as no shocker, but her recent success on dirt and longer turf races, does this surprise you?

I think she's won a grand total of two dirt races at this meet, both off-the-turf NY-bred races at 5.5F.

[Cannon Shell]

Not denigrating Linda Rice but the modern Saratoga meeting doesnt have too much in common with the older versions. Exactly how many non NYbred, turf sprints or claiming races has she won?

I know it is blasphemy but the racing quality has really deteroriated.

[Linny]

Linda has had horses in the harness barns and in Roy Lerman's barn on Gridley for several years now. If I were training, I'd like to be back there too. It's a bit off the beaten path and the horses have to walk a bit more to get to and from the track, giving them a bit of a change of pace. Easy access o the gallop track at Clare Court makes it more likely that her horses are building up strength on that deep surface.
Cannon is right. They have run more claiming and condition claiming and turf sprints than ever and it plays to Linda's strengths. That said, alot of the elite type operations that have always thrived here certainly have some stock to dropdown to take advantage and Todd hs a barn full of More Than Ready's that should be winning every grass sprint.

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I know it is blasphemy but the racing quality has really deteroriated.

No ****. But I never thought I'd be reading this in a NYRA faithful forum.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I know it is blasphemy but the racing quality has really deteroriated.

I agree that turf sprints annoy me and you see too many NY Bred races card - but as for saying the racing quality deteroriated ...

In relation to what track?

[Bobby Fischer]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

In relation to what track?

good ol' days downs

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Bobby Fischer

good ol' days downs

Yeah like 3 years ago.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

I agree that turf sprints annoy me and you see too many NY Bred races card - but as for saying the racing quality deteroriated ...

In relation to what track?

In relation to Saratoga.

Turf sprints, NYbreds, condition claimers and maiden claimers dominate most cards.

It wasnt long ago that outside of the 10 or so NYbred races a week you wouldnt see any of these other races at Saratoga.

It has gotten so even 2 yo maiden races on the dirt arent having full fields and we have seen some carded with 6 or 7.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

In relation to Saratoga.

Turf sprints, NYbreds, condition claimers and maiden claimers dominate most cards.

It wasnt long ago that outside of the 10 or so NYbred races a week you wouldnt see any of these other races at Saratoga.

It has gotten so even 2 yo maiden races on the dirt arent having full fields and we have seen some carded with 6 or 7.

It's really all about horses not running as often as they once did. Basically you're blaming horsemen for not running their horses.

As for Saratoga, they carded a total of 339 races in 2001 .. they carded 359 races last year.

That's 20 more races total.

36 turf sprints were carded last year.

State bred races have become more and more ... because the number of NY bred horses have increased over the last decade ... and connections of NY breds are less likely to wait five or six weeks between starts.

The kind of open allowance races we all like to see carded are now going with 5 horses and featuring lone speed mediocrites like Pitched Perfectly stealing them from horses like Ea (who scratched 3 times earlier in the meet)

As for the 2yo maiden races on the dirt ... the onslought of wet weather all summer long has likely set training of some of them back.

In relation to what's going on at other tracks - especially Southern Cal ones - the quality of racing is going good at Saratoga.