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Old 08-24-2009, 10:51 PM
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What was so interesting about his ride?

He was loose on an unpressured lead through moderate fractions and he was unable to make good of the tactical advantage.

Flat Bold was dead last early - just a few lengths back - and was practically pulling Dominguez out of the saddle.

Is Ian Wilkes supposed to be some great handicapper or future wager expert or something? His horse will have to run significantly better to win the Travers.
No question he will have to run better to win the Travers....however, some trainers take their time and develop horses with very specific goals in mind....Ian never had any intention of winning the Jim Dandy or the Dwyer for that matter...they were learning experiences for his colt. WR will be , as Indian Charlie says "further back than nuts on a cat" in the Travers and will finish with a flourish. Putting him into the race last out merely served as a foundation builder for the Travers...

AND its a ridiculous comment for you to call a trainer "some future wager expert" when he is only signifying belief in his colt and executing a plan to get there.....same as Carl did with countless horses. Did you think Unshaded would win the Travers? Lady Joanne the Alabama? Street Sense the BC Juvenile? or Ian's Court Folly destroying Songster at 2/5 in the Amsterdam? etc, etc, etc............
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Old 08-24-2009, 11:03 PM
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No question he will have to run better to win the Travers....however, some trainers take their time and develop horses with very specific goals in mind....Ian never had any intention of winning the Jim Dandy or the Dwyer for that matter...they were learning experiences for his colt. WR will be , as Indian Charlie says "further back than nuts on a cat" in the Travers and will finish with a flourish. Putting him into the race last out merely served as a foundation builder for the Travers....
For having no intention at all of winning those last three races of his ... he sure was bet like a mofo in all 3. Failing at odds of 4/5, 4/5, and 5/2 and taking certainly more money than I expected in his last two.


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AND its a ridiculous comment for you to call a trainer "some future wager expert" when he is only signifying belief in his colt and executing a plan to get there.....same as Carl did with countless horses. Did you think Unshaded would win the Travers? Lady Joanne the Alabama? Street Sense the BC Juvenile? or Ian's Court Folly destroying Songster at 2/5 in the Amsterdam? etc, etc, etc............
Yes, Yes, No, No

He's signifying a belief that he overestimated his colt.
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Old 08-24-2009, 11:17 PM
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By the way, Wilkes lifetime record in Graded Stakes races is 49-7-5-8 with an ROI of $1.96

And he can thank Court Folly for his big upset of 1/9 shot Songster. The same Songster that was 5th beaten almost 8 lengths in the King's Bishop at 5/2 in his next start.
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Old 08-24-2009, 11:21 PM
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By the way, Wilkes lifetime record in Graded Stakes races is 49-7-5-8 with an ROI of $1.96

And he can thank Court Folly for his big upset of 1/9 shot Songster. The same Songster that was 5th beaten almost 8 lengths in the King's Bishop at 5/2 in his next start.
Don't forget that three of those wins were earned by Miss Isella with one perfect rail-skimming trip after another.

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Old 08-25-2009, 12:38 AM
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Ntamm and Drugs are both being to hard on Warriors Reward, and he will be 10-1, why knock someone on a bomb? I like his chances, Im leaning on QR and Warrior will be my only backup.
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