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Old 09-15-2006, 04:37 PM
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And the geniuses who think they can't ... should learn a lot more about thoroughbred racing history.

You've bought into the "fresh horse" theory ... and I completely disagree with it. Nothing will definitively resolve the difference .. but ...

... I do know that thirty years and more ago ... I watched all the best horses in every division race 12 or 15 or more times every year ... top horses facing each other five, six or more times within the campaign ... and today ... fans only get to see their favorites a handful of times at best.

Regardless of which training method works better ... the old way at least made the sport a lot more interesting.
Horses are also faster today, whether it be from better training methods, nutritional advancements, or "move up" factors, they are faster and the stress from racing is much greater, they need to have their races spaced, so they can properly recover and be at peak.
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Old 09-15-2006, 04:47 PM
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Horses are also faster today.
They absolutely, positively are not. Not for the last sixty years or so.

There's not a shred of evidence to back that up.
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Old 09-15-2006, 04:50 PM
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They absolutely, positively are not. Not for the last sixty years or so.

There's not a shred of evidence to back that up.
I point you to the Thorograph Website, there's as article by the name of "Are races horses getting faster", they present some good arguements, take a look, I am not saying you have to believe, just take a look...
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Old 09-15-2006, 04:56 PM
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I point you to the Thorograph Website, there's as article by the name of "Are races horses getting faster", they present some good arguements, take a look, I am not saying you have to believe, just take a look...
Race times are ever-so-marginally faster ... and nowhere near any statistical significance ... than they were sixty years ago ...

... and that's mostly due to track maintenance and timing methods ... than to the ability of the horses themselves.

Don't disparage Phalaris ... there's an awful lot you can learn from her ... she's one of the leading authorities in the business.
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Old 09-15-2006, 05:05 PM
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Race times are ever-so-marginally faster ... and nowhere near any statistical significance ... than they were sixty years ago ...

... and that's mostly due to track maintenance and timing methods ... than to the ability of the horses themselves.

Don't disparage Phalaris ... there's an awful lot you can learn from her ... she's one of the leading authorities in the business.
I didn't disparage Phalaris, never mentioned his/her name...

All that I asked was for you to read that article...
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Old 09-15-2006, 05:09 PM
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I didn't disparage Phalaris, never mentioned his/her name...

All that I asked was for you to read that article...
Sorry ... it was Rupe who did it ...

... but you better not either !!!

Please provide a link to the article you mentioned.
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Old 09-15-2006, 05:11 PM
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Sorry ... it was Rupe who did it ...

... but you better not either !!!

Please provide a link to the article you mentioned.
I can't right now, that site is blocked at work and I am here until 9pm ET, I'll post it later...
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