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Old 08-22-2009, 06:00 PM
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Impressive...

Shes really good, but beat a group of horses who were consistently running beyers in the 77-93 range on dirt. Her 104 last time crushed these, and she ran back to it.
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Old 08-22-2009, 06:13 PM
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Shes really good, but beat a group of horses who were consistently running beyers in the 77-93 range on dirt. Her 104 last time crushed these, and she ran back to it.
But didn't Rachel Alexandra do the same in The KY Oaks(okay she won by a Secretariat like margin), obcourse hindsight is 20/20 no one knew she would go on to be better under Assmusen.

I follow Woodbine so it isn't really a surprise to me she is a good horse, but in all honesty I never thought she would be this good, this soon.
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Old 08-22-2009, 06:56 PM
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Her 104 last time crushed these, and she ran back to it.
That giant figure in her last race was very cut and dry ... but it came with a loose lead ... albeit loose through very strong fractions with a fast horse in Malibu Prayer chasing her. Malibu Prayer had won a bitter duel with a next out Test winner her prior start.

What was so impressive about today was not that she ran back to her only other dirt figure .. but she showed that she could do it while denied the lead going a classic distance. Even if the Beyer doesn't show it - I think she took a step forward today.
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Old 08-22-2009, 07:12 PM
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What are her POLY numbers?
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Old 08-22-2009, 07:15 PM
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What are her POLY numbers?
They were irrelevant is what they were.
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Old 08-22-2009, 07:17 PM
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They were irrelevant is what they were.
No doubt. But we already knew that.

What are your numbers for her on POLY?
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Old 08-22-2009, 07:22 PM
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Sprints were 81 and 82. The route was a 92 and was earned setting a slow pace without pressure then flying home.
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Old 08-22-2009, 07:28 PM
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That 23.99 2nd split is slow for you?

This filly has now run 4 straight wipe-outs. Not an easy thing to do.
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Old 08-22-2009, 07:28 PM
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On different note, I wonder when Jess Jackson will make his offer to buy Careless Jewel from these connections and turn her over to the Ass-Man.

I hope these owners can resist the inevitiable 6 figure offer they will no doubt receive once they haved viewed today's race.
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Old 08-22-2009, 07:14 PM
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What was so impressive about today was not that she ran back to her only other dirt figure .. but she showed that she could do it while denied the lead going a classic distance. Even if the Beyer doesn't show it - I think she took a step forward today.
That is was what I saw, she was steadied hard around the 1st turn also to make it even more impressive, and you have to like the way she kicked home, no apparence of shortening stride. She could get even better...
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Old 08-22-2009, 07:35 PM
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That giant figure in her last race was very cut and dry ... but it came with a loose lead ... albeit loose through very strong fractions with a fast horse in Malibu Prayer chasing her. Malibu Prayer had won a bitter duel with a next out Test winner her prior start.

What was so impressive about today was not that she ran back to her only other dirt figure .. but she showed that she could do it while denied the lead going a classic distance. Even if the Beyer doesn't show it - I think she took a step forward today.
Is she competition for Rachel, I think she might be.
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Old 08-22-2009, 09:51 PM
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Is she competition for Rachel, I think she might be.
never know, until theres a race. shes clearly better than what shes been beating, her races are not even close. she runs on poly. breeders cup distaff material.
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Old 08-22-2009, 10:17 PM
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Is she competition for Rachel, I think she might be.
Only if Hal Wiggins got to train her.. 2.03 your kidding right Rachel would beat her by a a country mile
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Old 08-23-2009, 01:15 AM
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She is no nashoba's key, let alone ra.
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Old 08-23-2009, 10:31 AM
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She is no nashoba's key, let alone ra.

Nashoba's Key was a filly I never appreciated. Perhaps I am wrong, I never thought she was all that special if special at all.
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Old 08-23-2009, 10:38 AM
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Only if Hal Wiggins got to train her.. 2.03 your kidding right Rachel would beat her by a a country mile
On the surface the final time was good/ordinary but the track went from muddy to good later in the day, I think this is a case when you have to use your common sense to evaluate if a performance was good or wasn't.
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Old 08-23-2009, 10:41 AM
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On the surface the final time was good/ordinary but the track went from muddy to good later in the day, I think this is a case when you have to use your common sense to evaluate if a performance was good or wasn't.

I agree the race was very very impressive even if she beat vermin. Don't know the BSF but I would have to imagine its between a 104 and 108?
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Old 08-23-2009, 11:32 AM
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I agree the race was very very impressive even if she beat vermin. Don't know the BSF but I would have to imagine its between a 104 and 108?
She got a 103.

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