Vikings Love in Vegas

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

I think some have been a little quick to dismiss the vikings this year and that is a huge mistake. Say what you want about Brett Favre but he can still make big league throws and he has receivers with a lot of speed. Combine this with arguably the best running back in the league and you have a very high powered offense. The defense is going to get better simply by not having to be on the field as long.

Im not saying they are going to win the whole thing but they will contend...barring injury of course.

Worst post of 2009

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Worst post of 2009

Dixie, get off of sniper's computer.

Would you like to wager on whether or not they make the playoffs? 50 dollars?

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Dixie, get off of sniper's computer.

Would you like to wager on whether or not they make the playoffs? 50 dollars?

They'd have made the playoffs with Sage Rosenfels at QB and probably still will do so when Favre is done by Week 8.

[Crown@club]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

They'd have made the playoffs with Sage Rosenfels at QB and probably still will do so when Favre is done by Week 8.

Entertaining press conferences and announcer compliments don't count in leagues, just wins and numbers. Expectations for Favre aren't that different than they would have been for Sage Rosenfels.

Ultimately, they are both high completion quarterbacks that throw too many interceptions. The Vikings should remain a run-first team, and Favre's pass attempts could drop while throwing to an average receiver group.

Plus there's the tiny concern that Favre is turning 40, hasn't worked out with a team all offseason, and couldn't convert deep passes last year.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Crown@club

Entertaining press conferences and announcer compliments don't count in leagues, just wins and numbers. Expectations for Favre aren't that different than they would have been for Sage Rosenfels.

Ultimately, they are both high completion quarterbacks that throw too many interceptions. The Vikings should remain a run-first team, and Favre's pass attempts could drop while throwing to an average receiver group.

Plus there's the tiny concern that Favre is turning 40, hasn't worked out with a team all offseason, and couldn't convert deep passes last year.

shouldn't any mention of brett and last year come with the tag line '...with the jets'?

[Crown@club]

Originally Posted by Danzig

shouldn't any mention of brett and last year come with the tag line '...with the jets'?

Why should it?
His last 4 years.....88 TD's and 84 Int's. He had an exceptional 2007 season, but no way he's going to repeat that....

88-84. Is just showing what trend Favre is heading.

You don't think that Favre playing hurt the 2nd half of the season contributed to the Jets downfall last season? His receivers are better than the ones he's going to play with anyways.

Now this.....Citing a medical source, Profootballtalk.com reports that Brett Favre's partially torn rotator cuff has a good chance to worsen.

"Cleared to play does not mean 'cleared to play well,'" the source said. "He's at high risk (for greater tearing) both because of trauma and his style of play. He's going to stress his cuff." Favre has looked good in practices to this point, but this is a reminder that he may not be hitting on all cylinders.

Now after that said, I can be one of the first to tell you that not to trust Profootballtalk.com, but confirms that part of my suspicions say that Favre will not be anymore better than what Rosenfels offers.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Crown@club

Why should it?
His last 4 years.....88 TD's and 84 Int's. He had an exceptional 2007 season, but no way he's going to repeat that....

88-84. Is just showing what trend Favre is heading.

You don't think that Favre playing hurt the 2nd half of the season contributed to the Jets downfall last season? His receivers are better than the ones he's going to play with anyways.

Now this.....Citing a medical source, Profootballtalk.com reports that Brett Favre's partially torn rotator cuff has a good chance to worsen.

"Cleared to play does not mean 'cleared to play well,'" the source said. "He's at high risk (for greater tearing) both because of trauma and his style of play. He's going to stress his cuff." Favre has looked good in practices to this point, but this is a reminder that he may not be hitting on all cylinders.

Now after that said, I can be one of the first to tell you that not to trust Profootballtalk.com, but confirms that part of my suspicions say that Favre will not be anymore better than what Rosenfels offers.

i don't think just favre contributed to their skid in the latter half of the season. i also think that the line, and the receiving corps very much makes a Qb.
i will not make the argument that favre is one of the best out there anymore, but i would definitely argue he's better by far then what the vikes already had.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Would you like to wager on whether or not they make the playoffs? 50 dollars?

What's my tab with you? $100? I'll bet $80 against that $100 that the Packers win at least as many games as the Vikings this year. If you want we can split it up into two $40 against $50 bets and you can placate your Cutlerboner and have the Bears against the Packers in the second bet.

Aaron Rodgers > Bret Favre > Rex Grossman > Jay Cutler

[Scav]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

What's my tab with you? $100? I'll bet $80 against that $100 that the Packers win at least as many games as the Vikings this year. If you want we can split it up into two $40 against $50 bets and you can placate your Cutlerboner and have the Bears against the Packers in the second bet.

Aaron Rodgers > Bret Favre > Rex Grossman > Jay Cutler

You think the Packers are going to have more wins then the Bears?

Do you watch football?

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Scav

You think the Packers are going to have more wins then the Bears?

Do you watch football?

Yes, and I think the Packers are going to be very good this year. Aaron Rodgers looks really good this preseason and I think he's going to have a great year this year finally having an offseason knowing that he was the man. They had 7 losses by 4 points or less last year which is tied for the second most in NFL history. Most of that was on the defense but expect their defense to be vastly improved this year with Dom Capers. First year with Dom Capers as defensive coordinator:

1992 - Pittsburgh - improved from 22nd to 2nd
1999 - Jacksonsville - improved from 17th to 1st
2006 - Miami - improved from 15th to 5th

If he can improve the Packers from the 22nd defense to the 14th that already turns 4 of those 7 losses into wins and makes them a 10 win team. If he does more than that and the offense improves it could be an 11 or 12 win team.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Yes, and I think the Packers are going to be very good this year. Aaron Rodgers looks really good this preseason and I think he's going to have a great year this year finally having an offseason knowing that he was the man. They had 7 losses by 4 points or less last year which is tied for the second most in NFL history. Most of that was on the defense but expect their defense to be vastly improved this year with Dom Capers. First year with Dom Capers as defensive coordinator:

1992 - Pittsburgh - improved from 22nd to 2nd
1999 - Jacksonsville - improved from 17th to 1st
2006 - Miami - improved from 15th to 5th

If he can improve the Packers from the 22nd defense to the 14th that already turns 4 of those 7 losses into wins and makes them a 10 win team. If he does more than that and the offense improves it could be an 11 or 12 win team.

The Packers will be decent this year, only because their offense is awesome. That alone will keep them in games, but their defense is very questionable. A completely new system without a bunch of rocket scientists, where I expect them to get better later in the season, but it will be too late

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Scav

The Packers will be decent this year, only because their offense is awesome. That alone will keep them in games, but their defense is very questionable. A completely new system without a bunch of rocket scientists, where I expect them to get better later in the season, but it will be too late

A 3-4 defense is dependent on a stud nose tackle. I think BJ Raji can be that guy. Even if Nick Barnett isn't back 100% this year they will still have a good defense, if he comes back strong they could be really good.

[Crown@club]

Originally Posted by Scav

The Packers will be decent this year, only because their offense is awesome. That alone will keep them in games, but their defense is very questionable. A completely new system without a bunch of rocket scientists, where I expect them to get better later in the season, but it will be too late

Tom...it might be questionable....but they look very good defensively so far. I think there question mark is the running game. It wouldn't surprise me if they take the division. It also wouldn't surprise me if the Vikes fall to 3rd.

[3kings]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Yes, and I think the Packers are going to be very good this year. Aaron Rodgers looks really good this preseason and I think he's going to have a great year this year finally having an offseason knowing that he was the man. They had 7 losses by 4 points or less last year which is tied for the second most in NFL history. Most of that was on the defense but expect their defense to be vastly improved this year with Dom Capers. First year with Dom Capers as defensive coordinator:

1992 - Pittsburgh - improved from 22nd to 2nd
1999 - Jacksonsville - improved from 17th to 1st
2006 - Miami - improved from 15th to 5th

If he can improve the Packers from the 22nd defense to the 14th that already turns 4 of those 7 losses into wins and makes them a 10 win team. If he does more than that and the offense improves it could be an 11 or 12 win team.

The Capers factor is legit, the defence will be much improved. I think Rogers will have a big year with this division going down to the wire.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Yes, and I think the Packers are going to be very good this year. Aaron Rodgers looks really good this preseason and I think he's going to have a great year this year finally having an offseason knowing that he was the man. They had 7 losses by 4 points or less last year which is tied for the second most in NFL history. Most of that was on the defense but expect their defense to be vastly improved this year with Dom Capers. First year with Dom Capers as defensive coordinator:

1992 - Pittsburgh - improved from 22nd to 2nd
1999 - Jacksonsville - improved from 17th to 1st
2006 - Miami - improved from 15th to 5th

If he can improve the Packers from the 22nd defense to the 14th that already turns 4 of those 7 losses into wins and makes them a 10 win team. If he does more than that and the offense improves it could be an 11 or 12 win team.

Defense wound up #2 in the NFL. Capers is a miracle worker.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Defense wound up #2 in the NFL. Capers is a miracle worker.

soft schedule sniper they are not that good

[3kings]

Originally Posted by Scav

You think the Packers are going to have more wins then the Bears?

Do you watch football?

good Comedy..........not to pick on you Tom but this thread has some classic stuff in it. Really I just bumped this for Dahla who has bumped it every week, I'm just saving her the trouble.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by 3kings

good Comedy..........not to pick on you Tom but this thread has some classic stuff in it. Really I just bumped this for Dahla who has bumped it every week, I'm just saving her the trouble.

Thank you Tom for digging up THAT gem..See you in Pittsburgh Sunday. Are you going to the game?

[3kings]

Originally Posted by GBBob

Thank you Tom for digging up THAT gem..See you in Pittsburgh Sunday. Are you going to the game?

I have tickets but I'm debating going to Philly Park to see K&S run. Will not be leaving till Sunday morning if I do that. PM me your plans and maybe we can catch up for a meal or adult beverage.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

What's my tab with you? $100? I'll bet $80 against that $100 that the Packers win at least as many games as the Vikings this year. If you want we can split it up into two $40 against $50 bets and you can placate your Cutlerboner and have the Bears against the Packers in the second bet.

Aaron Rodgers > Bret Favre > Rex Grossman > Jay Cutler

Those are sucker bets.

I will bet vikings vs. packers even up. If they end up with the same record, then the bet pushes.

50 dollars.

Deal?