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[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

What is socialist about England?

their own socialist party for 3. Need I go further? Cause I can.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

their own socialist party for 3. Need I go further? Cause I can.

Wow. You'd better tell Parliament they are Socialists

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Wow. You'd better tell Parliament they are Socialists

Don't have to they already know they're there. In fact they don't even hide it unlike ours.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Don't have to they already know they're there. In fact they don't even hide it unlike ours.

I think 1940's Germany was the last non-Socialist country in your guy's mind.

You throw that word around and you don't even know what it really means

[GBBob]

And your biggest bitch session is over Health Care. Screw the Mom who has lost it because her Son died in the Bush family war, but let's beat the party that is trying to improve HEALTH CARE to death. You may not agree with how he is going about it and I don't 100% either, but at least someone is doing something about it, or at least trying. Republicans are the first to admit the system sucks, but their "man" didn't do jack sh+t. You just want every man, woman and child for them selves and the best man left standing wins. F+ck that...I'm so sick of the right whining and crying and moaning when they don't like something. Suck it up people. You survived the Clinton years and even now admit it wasn't so bad. We are all lucky to have survived the idiot years..well, except the countless who died in the war while Dubya' was being fitted for a bomber jacket and his minions were trying to figure out how many "s" in "Mission Accomplished".

Originally Posted by GBBob

And your biggest bitch session is over Health Care. Screw the Mom who has lost it because her Son died in the Bush family war, but let's beat the party that is trying to improve HEALTH CARE to death. You may not agree with how he is going about it and I don't 100% either, but at least someone is doing something about it, or at least trying. Republicans are the first to admit the system sucks, but their "man" didn't do jack sh+t. You just want every man, woman and child for them selves and the best man left standing wins. F+ck that...I'm so sick of the right whining and crying and moaning when they don't like something. Suck it up people. You survived the Clinton years and even now admit it wasn't so bad. We are all lucky to have survived the idiot years..well, except the countless who died in the war while Dubya' was being fitted for a bomber jacket and his minions were trying to figure out how many "s" in "Mission Accomplished".

You can't cry about war when Obama is ramping up efforts in the war where Dubya said Mission Accomplished.

It just seems...I don't know...hypocritical...especially when you bring up deaths of soldiers. Like somehow the war is justified cause there is a Democrat in office.

[GBBob]

[quote=Coach Pants]You can't cry about war when Obama is ramping up efforts in the war where Dubya said Mission Accomplished.

It just seems...I don't know...hypocritical...especially when you bring up deaths of soldiers. Like somehow the war is justified cause there is a Democrat in office.[/QUOTE

You may not agree with a lot of stuff I post, but I would never casually use "deaths of soldiers" that way. One person started a war, one person is trying to end it. Maybe not in the best way, but if he doesn't go into Afganahistan and there is a terrorist strike based there, then what? The dude can't win...and I'm surprised you can't see that.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by GBBob

And your biggest bitch session is over Health Care. Screw the Mom who has lost it because her Son died in the Bush family war,.

No one has said that and I'm not sure how a death of a GI son affects the mother's insurance? But by changing everything just to change, and this isn't junk cars, is crazy. OB's plan will pool a good chunk money going now into Medicaid to some general fund for everyone. Of course the elderly are concerned and to call them Rep pawns or shills was a really bad idea.

Then OB claims AARP supports his plan and because of that surely the elderly aren't afraid of losing health care. AARP comes out and says they haven't given support and it's chalked up as misspeak.

He uses the Post Office vs. UPS vs. FedEx seemingly believing people somehow prefer the Post Office?

Today it's the insurance companies' fault....

Bush's detractors certainly were heard and seen during the last 8 years so doesn't the other side have the same right? You can want us to suck it up all you want, just don't hold your breath, as we're a pretty stubborn bunch.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

No one has said that and I'm not sure how a death of a GI son affects the mother's insurance? But by changing everything just to change, and this isn't junk cars, is crazy. OB's plan will pool a good chunk money going now into Medicaid to some general fund for everyone. Of course the elderly are concerned and to call them Rep pawns or shills was a really bad idea.

Then OB claims AARP supports his plan and because of that surely the elderly aren't afraid of losing health care. AARP comes out and says they haven't given support and it's chalked up as misspeak.

He uses the Post Office vs. UPS vs. FedEx seemingly believing people somehow prefer the Post Office?

Today it's the insurance companies' fault....

Bush's detractors certainly were heard and seen during the last 8 years so doesn't the other side have the same right? You can want us to suck it up all you want, just don't hold your breath, as we're a pretty stubborn bunch.

Bush's detractors picked and chose their spots. The hatred from the Right has even Republican's scared.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by GBBob

And your biggest bitch session is over Health Care. Screw the Mom who has lost it because her Son died in the Bush family war, but let's beat the party that is trying to improve HEALTH CARE to death. You may not agree with how he is going about it and I don't 100% either, but at least someone is doing something about it, or at least trying. Republicans are the first to admit the system sucks, but their "man" didn't do jack sh+t. You just want every man, woman and child for them selves and the best man left standing wins. F+ck that...I'm so sick of the right whining and crying and moaning when they don't like something. Suck it up people. You survived the Clinton years and even now admit it wasn't so bad. We are all lucky to have survived the idiot years..well, except the countless who died in the war while Dubya' was being fitted for a bomber jacket and his minions were trying to figure out how many "s" in "Mission Accomplished".

i think everyone recognizes that our health care needs a serious revamping. but i'd rather they take a long look and come up with a decent plan, not just run through something for the sake of having done something. i'd rather they do nothing then screw things up even more.
the fed has become so much more than it was ever intended to be. too many programs the states should be handling have been given over to the fed, which is a huge mistake, and which leads to fraud and waste. better the fed had kept to national defense, and left everything else to the states. but i guess it's too late for that.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i think everyone recognizes that our health care needs a serious revamping. but i'd rather they take a long look and come up with a decent plan, not just run through something for the sake of having done something. .

It sure doesn't seem to me they are just doing something or the sake of it. They have come up with a decent plan. Three of them, in fact, which vary. A decent plans with many components. They've been "looking at it" for the past 20 years.

The details are out there, especially this week when the President held three live Town Halls and went over all the details of the various plans, repeatedly.

I just hope, when it comes out of the final compromise committee, the Senate doesn't screw it up so badly it's useless. They will compromise, and it will be in effect in 2013.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by GBBob

I think 1940's Germany was the last non-Socialist country in your guy's mind.

You throw that word around and you don't even know what it really means

I may be wrong but believe there is a political party in England who proudly call themselves the Socialist Party.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

I may be wrong but believe there is a political party in England who proudly call themselves the Socialist Party.

It's kind of funny, but I looked up Socialist Party, at least in England, and lots could be "Republican" Party...You'll only be happy when some guy from Wyoming puts a bullet in Obama's head..then the haters will sleep at night.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sociali...land_and_Wales)

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

I may be wrong but believe there is a political party in England who proudly call themselves the Socialist Party.

So what? That doesn't make either England or Great Britian Socialist.

There's a Socialist Party in the US, too.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

So what? That doesn't make either England or Great Britian Socialist.

There's a Socialist Party in the US, too.

When a country imposes a tax that is more than half of what was earned that worker IMO works for the Country or common good . That money taken from the worker is distributed among others to make them more equal including healthcare. It's not a perfect socialist society thankfully but certainly has socialists’ tendencies.

Don't be afraid just say 'Hello My Name is Riot' and let it go.....

[Riot]

Originally Posted by GBBob

You throw that word around and you don't even know what it really means

I've spent months trying to figure out how someone could be a communist, a Nazi, a liberal, and a socialist at the same time.