8/8 (AP): Arlington Million (G1); Beverly D (G1); Secretariat (G1)

[Bobby Fischer]

Originally Posted by brockguy

That Aga Khan horse doesn't look impressive to me! Her races aren't much, but Ill be reading the form on the flight over and I'm sure I'll have a reason to like her by the time I arrive!! Any guesses on what Mad About You will be sent off at? I think she'll love the States!

conservatively 3-1 7-2, but hopefully more. She is strong and there are many scenarios that fit her. Lets say Tizqueena goes out to a clear lead, your gal can outmove Points of Grace and hold off the closers. She is probably even good enough to just attack the leader slightly prematurely and end the race early. If Points of Grace and Dominguez manage to break on top, Tizqueena may be forced up on the pace and again it sets up nicely.

[hockey2315]

I don't see Ramon putting Points of Grace right on the lead, but maybe the connections will instruct him to do so because she ran so big last time.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

I don't see Ramon putting Points of Grace right on the lead, but maybe the connections will instruct him to do so because she ran so big last time.

I thought jockeys don't matter?

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

I thought jockeys don't matter?

They don't make horses better/worse.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

They don't make horses better/worse.

A few jockeys move horses up.... Ramon especially.

[ArlJim78]

count on softer turf, its been pouring pretty well for hours, and more rain in the forecast tonight and tomorrow.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

count on softer turf, its been pouring pretty well for hours, and more rain in the forecast tonight and tomorrow.

Eienstein ran huge on the soft turf at Churchill.

[-BT-]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

A few jockeys move horses up.... Ramon especially.

ughhhhh make it stop

-bt-

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by -BT-

ughhhhh make it stop

-bt-

You want to explain that ? He always saves ground, and always finds the rail. Even when he has no horse he gives you the best chance to win. Example, Thursdays 4th, he is riding the 10 he has no horse at all, but watch where he places this horse.

Look at his ride in the Diana, because of his trip it was that close.

[Bobby Fischer]

Originally Posted by Bobby Fischer

conservatively 3-1 7-2, but hopefully more. She is strong and there are many scenarios that fit her. Lets say Tizqueena goes out to a clear lead, your gal can outmove Points of Grace and hold off the closers. She is probably even good enough to just attack the leader slightly prematurely and end the race early. If Points of Grace and Dominguez manage to break on top, Tizqueena may be forced up on the pace and again it sets up nicely.

i knew that trip would get there(especially seeing races 6 and 7 to gauge the turf), unfortunately wrong mare. Tough trip for Mad About You but she wasn't best today anyway.

[Travis Stone]

I think there's a new horse in the race for Horse of the Year as well.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

I think there's a new horse in the race for Horse of the Year as well.

Gio Ponti? Great horse, I really like him, but turf horses don't win HOTY unless they're named John Henry.

Realistically, Rachel has this about wrapped up.

[letswastemoney]

They could try the synthetic Classic if they want to go for HOY

[booner]

Originally Posted by philcski

Gio Ponti? Great horse, I really like him, but turf horses don't win HOTY unless they're named John Henry.

Realistically, Rachel has this about wrapped up.

I agree.

But Gio Ponti is the hottest horse on the lawn right now (did I just state the obvious? ).

[Travis Stone]

Originally Posted by philcski

Gio Ponti? Great horse, I really like him, but turf horses don't win HOTY unless they're named John Henry.

Realistically, Rachel has this about wrapped up.

I agree and you're right, but there are a lot of things that could happen between now and then not just for him, but Rachel as well. Lots of ifs, but it's interesting none-the-less.

[NTamm1215]

Gio Ponti would have a chance at HOTY in most other years. I do think they need to give some consideration to running him in the Classic.

I really don't think his accomplishments are appreciated for what they are in that winning 4 Grade Is in a row at three different tracks ranging from the putting green turf at SA at a mile to the softer going at Arlington and Belmont to the firm course where he raced five wide basically the entire way.

I think it's great to see Christophe Clement have such a great horse too. By the way, does anyone know why Indian Charlie (the indiancharlie.com satirist not our resident satirist) hates CC so much?

NT

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

I think it's great to see Christophe Clement have such a great horse too. By the way, does anyone know why Indian Charlie (the indiancharlie.com satirist not our resident satirist) hates CC so much?

NT

Ever met him?

[CSC]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

I agree and you're right, but there are a lot of things that could happen between now and then not just for him, but Rachel as well. Lots of ifs, but it's interesting none-the-less.

I think there's a ways to go, the BC can alter alot of opinions. At the moment RA is the obvious choice but if she loses in the BC surmising she will indeed go then all bets are off for HOY assuming Gio Ponti wins. Alot of if's in the equation I know.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by philcski

Gio Ponti? Great horse, I really like him, but turf horses don't win HOTY unless they're named John Henry.

Realistically, Rachel has this about wrapped up.

Or Kotashaan or All Along.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

I think there's a new horse in the race for Horse of the Year as well.

HOY is a longshot for him because of the two girls but he's probably locked up the grass male title and with the BC being on synthetic, what if he were to win the Goodwood and Classic. When is the last time a horse won older male and grass championships in the same year? John Henry?