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Old 08-07-2009, 12:06 PM
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Wow ... I thought the Clement Hirsch at Del Mar was a handicap.

When did they change it?

I can figure out why they changed it ... it's not exactly hard to figure out who they're trying to please.
They changed it before last year I believe, who were they trying to please?
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Old 08-07-2009, 02:15 PM
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I think it's the right move. Handicaps are worthless if they aren't going to be done right. What is the point of a handicap where the top weight in a grade one for older males is 119 pounds and on the same card, 2yo males will be running with 121? I don't put the blame on Frankel but it's guys like him that have caused this and racing secretaries around the country that are scared to give real weights because they don't want to lose their good horses to one of the thousands of other similar races that will be run somewhere that same day or within a week.
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Old 08-10-2009, 05:30 PM
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They changed it before last year I believe, who were they trying to please?
It was a handicap race last year.
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Old 08-10-2009, 11:53 PM
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They changed it before last year I believe, who were they trying to please?
DrugS is right, it was a handicap last year. The motive was pretty apparent, no?
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Old 08-11-2009, 11:22 AM
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DrugS is right, it was a handicap last year. The motive was pretty apparent, no?
yes it seems so.

I am in the boat that thinks there should be no handicaps anyways so its a good thing.
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