Einstein vs Gio Ponti

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Bobby Fischer

haven't been feeling well to handicap or feel like looking @ the field, but Einstein is nothing to worry about in a big turf race. If there are any decent grade I or grade II horses in the field he most likely gets slightly to moderately overbet as usual, and beat.

I completely disagree. Im not touting Einstein in this spot but to say that he is nothing to worry about in a big turf race is just not accurate. He has won multiple grade 1's on turf which is his strongest surface and the Big cap on the synthetic.

What do you have to back up this statement?

[Bobby Fischer]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

I completely disagree. Im not touting Einstein in this spot but to say that he is nothing to worry about in a big turf race is just not accurate. He has won multiple grade 1's on turf which is his strongest surface and the Big cap on the synthetic.

What do you have to back up this statement?

I don't need back-up
I'm like Arnold Schwarzenegger in this game



ok... you made me look at the form

In this field, if you give me 10-1 I will bet Einstein to win for $5, but no more. And this field isn't even all that great.


On paper Gio Ponte and Cime de Triomphe are the obvious standouts. The key here is going back and watching the Eclipse(and maybe a couple other foreign flicks) and making my judgment as to whether or not he "lost the jump" on conduit in the trouble line, regressed, or whether conduit improved/used the blue gerard.. as prep.

Einstein desperately needs Presious Passion's(how can you not root for this horse?) PACE to take the 3 foreign shippers out of there game(Glorio de campo is probably reall not a contender, so "2" )
But even with the best "American" style pace and the worst reactions frome CIME n co. , Gio Ponte looks like he would benefit at this point just as much and have his table set.

[RockHardTen1985]

Will your picks be posted on twitter?

[cakes44]

I'm guessing Einstein is forced into a premature move here on PP, then gets blown by in the stretch to finish 4thish. I just don't think Einstein has the turn of foot to match up with some of these, even with a perfect setup.

[Bobby Fischer]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Will your picks be posted on twitter?

you manage to crack a twitter joke for like the one twitter page in the universe that has been completely bananas in a meet that is supposed to be a tough meet.

You somehow missed Kensai until he RAN YOU OVER, and now you would bet Einstein in this race at 4-1...

best case scenario you are a joke alias for DougS (doesn't he RHT ?)


real answer: haven't been well, haven't handicapped in days much less updated twitter, check back next weekend

[CSC]

With Einstein you have a horse you know what you are going to get, not unlike going to a Mcdonalds and ordering a Big Mac, no thrills, no surprises...he usually runs his race and will be competitive at underlaid odds. If others run their A races I wouldn't be too bullish on his chances of winning. Safe pick but you have to hope others don't show up Sat.

[Gander]

Originally Posted by CSC

With Einstein you have a horse you know what you are going to get, not unlike going to a Mcdonalds and ordering a Big Mac, no thrills, no surprises...he usually runs his race and will be competitive at underlaid odds. If others run their A races I wouldn't be too bullish on his chances of winning. Safe pick but you have to hope others don't show up Sat.

I think Einstein is much better than a Big Mac. Those things are gross and make you feel ill after eating one. If you eat enough of that crap, you end up smelling like the food. I get your point, but cant we upgrade Einstein to at the very least a Quiznos sub or a cup of coffee from Starbucks?

This may be the toughest race to handicap...ever.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by Gander

I think Einstein is much better than a Big Mac. Those things are gross and make you feel ill after eating one. If you eat enough of that crap, you end up smelling like the food. I get your point, but cant we upgrade Einstein to at the very least a Quiznos sub or a cup of coffee from Starbucks?

This may be the toughest race to handicap...ever.

I didn't compare him to a Big Mac...and actually Big Macs are quite good when eaten in moderation.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Bobby Fischer

best case scenario you are a joke alias for DougS (doesn't he RHT ?)

The two are very similar and easily confused for one another.

I think it's the last name thing.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

The two are very similar and easily confused for one another.

I think it's the last name thing.

I was not taking a shot at him. I asked him a question. He is the only one taking shots. I guess its because he takes so much **** from everyone else, he must look at me as the only person he can get away with taking a shot at. Kinda sucks for him, so defensive, I really was only asking if he will post his picks.

[Bobby Fischer]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

I was not taking a shot at him.

if that is true, no harm - no foul
very frustrating week/day... Good luck if you play the race.

[chucklestheclown]

Originally Posted by Bobby Fischer

real answer: haven't been well, haven't handicapped in days much less updated twitter, check back next weekend

Please get better soon!

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Bobby Fischer

I don't need back-up
I'm like Arnold Schwarzenegger in this game



ok... you made me look at the form

In this field, if you give me 10-1 I will bet Einstein to win for $5, but no more. And this field isn't even all that great.


On paper Gio Ponte and Cime de Triomphe are the obvious standouts. The key here is going back and watching the Eclipse(and maybe a couple other foreign flicks) and making my judgment as to whether or not he "lost the jump" on conduit in the trouble line, regressed, or whether conduit improved/used the blue gerard.. as prep.

Einstein desperately needs Presious Passion's(how can you not root for this horse?) PACE to take the 3 foreign shippers out of there game(Glorio de campo is probably reall not a contender, so "2" )
But even with the best "American" style pace and the worst reactions frome CIME n co. , Gio Ponte looks like he would benefit at this point just as much and have his table set.

Again, im not touting Einstein to win here. I just don't understand how you could say he is not to at least be respected. He is a multiple grade 1 winner on turf and one of the 5-10 best horses in training in the US.

[Bobby Fischer]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Again, im not touting Einstein to win here. I just don't understand how you could say he is not to at least be respected. He is a multiple grade 1 winner on turf and one of the 5-10 best horses in training in the US.

he is a nice horse and deserves respect as a racehorse that's for sure.

If you don't think Gio Ponte will run his race, And you don't think the French horse or Cima Triomphe will run a big race I guess he has a shot with these others.


p.s. - i watched the Eclipse sea stars on youtube and Conduit's jockey gave Lemaire(Cima) a serious problem while everyone was just making their run. Will have to look at Brigadier Gerard as well as the frenchies last race later...