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Old 08-05-2009, 05:17 PM
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If you watch the head on the incident occurs right when the shot goes from behind the field on the turn to the stretch shot so its tough to get a really good look at it. Although she was lugging coming into the lane it looked like the horse inside her was coming out a bit as well. She was best anyway so the call was probably right though she still didn't look nearly like the horse she was last year.
Nonsense, she literally took as hard a left turn into the 10 as you could take. That wasn't even close. The problem here is there seems to be no rhyme or reason to DQs anymore.
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Old 08-05-2009, 05:21 PM
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Nonsense, she literally took as hard a left turn into the 10 as you could take. That wasn't even close. The problem here is there seems to be no rhyme or reason to DQs anymore.

it depends in ny if the stewards like you or not randall , if they like you , you stay up , if they don't , well then you com down

I seen horses stay up that had no business or did far worse than what Harlem Rocker did to Talk of Ekati last year at the Big A , but, because it was TP the horse comes down with no explanation
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Old 08-05-2009, 05:23 PM
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it depends in ny if the stewards like you or not randall , if they like you , you stay up , if they don't , well then you com down

I seen horses stay up that had no business or did far worse than what Harlem Rocker did to Talk of Ekati last year at the Big A , but, because it was TP the horse comes down with no explanation
You dont think it has anything to do with who they bet in the race?
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Old 08-05-2009, 05:24 PM
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You dont think it has anything to do with who they bet in the race?

stewards are not allowed to bet
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Old 08-05-2009, 05:25 PM
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I dont think that was as bad as Miss catalyst who won Sunday's 1st race. She should have been taken down. Nate and I were at the bar watching that and I said to him I bet you $100 that horse comes down. Luckily for me he didnt take the bet.
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Old 08-05-2009, 05:27 PM
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it depends in ny if the stewards like you or not randall , if they like you , you stay up , if they don't , well then you com down

I seen horses stay up that had no business or did far worse than what Harlem Rocker did to Talk of Ekati last year at the Big A , but, because it was TP the horse comes down with no explanation
I would have flipped had they taken down the 8 (from 2nd place) in the 1st.

I havent seen this race in question, but your right. It seems it's who you are that dictates whether you move or not.
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Old 08-05-2009, 05:57 PM
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I needed her to come down.

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Old 08-05-2009, 06:17 PM
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"Mettee, who didn't wait around for the win photo, said he was concerned about being disqualified "a little bit because it was pretty obvious she did shift in. Ramon was pretty confident because he said it looked a little worse than it really was."

---I guess so.
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Old 08-05-2009, 06:41 PM
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That's racing, sometimes. N.Y. stewards don't take them down very often. Didn't look that bad to me.
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Old 08-05-2009, 09:17 PM
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If Dee Tee owned her instead of GODolphin, she would have came down.
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Old 08-05-2009, 09:59 PM
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"Mettee, who didn't wait around for the win photo, said he was concerned about being disqualified "a little bit because it was pretty obvious she did shift in. Ramon was pretty confident because he said it looked a little worse than it really was."

---I guess so.
Clearly Mettee is as good as watching horse races as he is at managing the Godolphin Stable.

Disqualifying Cocoa Beach today would have been one of the worst decisions the stews in NY have made in years. The supposed contact stemmed from an inside move by My Baby Baby off the rail turning for home. The appearance of Cocoa Beach coming in was more the horses to her inside being forced out.

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Old 08-05-2009, 10:03 PM
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Clearly Mettee is as good as watching horse races as he is at managing the Godolphin Stable.

Disqualifying Cocoa Beach today would have been one of the worst decisions the stews in NY have made in years. The supposed contact, that Albarado claimed foul about, stemmed from his moving My Baby Baby off the rail turning for home. The appearance of Cocoa Beach coming in was more the horses to her inside being forced out.

I think Albarado should be fined for a frivolous objection as the contact at the top of the stretch was completely initiated by his move on My Baby Baby.

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Nick...pretty sure it was Lezcano on the 10 who claimed foul against both Dominguez and Albarado.
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Old 08-05-2009, 10:21 PM
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Clearly Mettee is as good as watching horse races as he is at managing the Godolphin Stable.

Disqualifying Cocoa Beach today would have been one of the worst decisions the stews in NY have made in years. The supposed contact stemmed from an inside move by My Baby Baby off the rail turning for home. The appearance of Cocoa Beach coming in was more the horses to her inside being forced out.

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Agree to disagree. I have yet to see any angle that gives credence to this theory.
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