Travers Buzz: Quality Road a yes..

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

The difference is that Quality Road was a good horse before Pletcher got him. Lawyer Ron was a wayward minor graded stakes competitor.

I've always subscribed to the theory that Lawyer Ron needed a stronger rider and a more relaxed regimen and he got that moving to Pletcher's barn.

NT

Yeah that and every seemingly decent horse from his crop getting hurt or retiring after their three year old year. The older horse crop in his 4 yo year was hardly stellar.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Yeah that and every seemingly decent horse from his crop getting hurt or retiring after their three year old year. The older horse crop in his 4 yo year was hardly stellar.

That certainly didn't hurt. You were too generous, though, the 4YOs with Lawyer Ron were atrocious.

The Super Derby is a perfect example of what changes Lawyer Ron needed as his tin man jockey can do nothing as he attempts to run off only to be caught late by Strong Contender, who was given a day pass out of John Ward's barn.

NT

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

That certainly didn't hurt. You were too generous, though, the 4YOs with Lawyer Ron were atrocious.

The Super Derby is a perfect example of what changes Lawyer Ron needed as his tin man jockey can do nothing as he attempts to run off only to be caught late by Strong Contender, who was given a day pass out of John Ward's barn.

NT

McKee didnt help the horse for sure

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Yeah that and every seemingly decent horse from his crop getting hurt or retiring after their three year old year. The older horse crop in his 4 yo year was hardly stellar.

2006 derby field tells the story pretty well.
Barbaro- injured, deceased
Bluegrass Cat- retired
Steppenwolfer- plodder that never moved forward at 4
Jazil- plodder that never moved forward at 4
Brother Derek- injured, retired
Showing Up- moved to turf, turned into a beast
Sweetnorthernsaint- never got back to his 3yo spring form
Deputy Glitters- fell apart after ok Ohio Derby
Point Determined- ?
Seaside Retreat- turned out ok in Canada
Storm Treasure- turned out ok as a turf horse
Lawyer Ron- transferred, freaked
Cause to Believe- ?
Flashy Bull- never ran fast races but found ways to win a few big races, turned out ok
Private Vow- ?
Sinister Minister- only ran a couple times in Cal, not well
Bob and John- ?
AP Warrior- retired
Sharp Humor- injured, retired
Keyed Entry- headcase sprinter