Rachel Alexandra (116 Beyer for Haskell)

[Travis Stone]

Zenyatta isn't in Rachel's zip code at this point. Rachel is running, Zenyatta is not. Rachel has tried the boys, Zenyatta has not. Sure the game could change, but right now, Rachel Alexandra is the 10-length leader in the race for Horse of the Year.

[randallscott35]

I love Jess Jackson. Good for him.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

I love Jess Jackson. Good for him.

Wrong answer Randall.

I don't hate Jess Jackson, but his stubborness won't change anything except keep horse racing from having another chance at good pub.

[Sightseek]

Grening's article said the preliminary figure for Rachel is a 116.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

Grening's article said the preliminary figure for Rachel is a 116.

I think it could be higher, I got a 121 and that may even be a couple points conservative. I just ran the numbers and got these for the 2 turn stakes:

Majestic Light Actin Good 92
Jersey Derby Endymion 87
Matchmaker Captains Lover 79
Lady's Secret Devil House 94
Oceanport Get Serious 98
Haskell Rachel Alexandra 121

Originally Posted by randallscott35

I wouldn't be surprised if she matched her Oaks number with that effort in terms of Thorograph. It was that good. I was more impressed with this race than the Oaks actually.

Might even have been better by a 1/2 point or point. She got a -4 in the Oaks and she was 3w3w this time...

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by philcski

I think it could be higher, I got a 121 and that may even be a couple points conservative. I just ran the numbers and got these for the 2 turn stakes:

Majestic Light Actin Good 92
Jersey Derby Endymion 87
Matchmaker Captains Lover 79
Lady's Secret Devil House 94
Oceanport Get Serious 98
Haskell Rachel Alexandra 121

Problem is the figures that makes for the 2nd to 5th place finishers in the Haskell. I find those tough to stomach if you give Rachel a 121.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Problem is the figures that makes for the 2nd to 5th place finishers in the Haskell. I find those tough to stomach if you give Rachel a 121.

I have no problem with Summer Bird and Munnings getting 110-111's in that scenario, they ran that well. The other two are tougher to argue for however.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by GBBob

Wrong answer Randall.

I don't hate Jess Jackson, but his stubborness won't change anything except keep horse racing from having another chance at good pub.

She will run at the BC, it is part of the story.....(Oh I didn't want to run but I just had to, I didn't want the public to hate me, so I did, she romped, and I am the greatest)

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by GBBob

Wrong answer Randall.

I don't hate Jess Jackson, but his stubborness won't change anything except keep horse racing from having another chance at good pub.

Stubborness? It's their horse for goodness sakes. How is it good publicity to run your horse on a surface she may not show how good she really is?

[Scav]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

Stubborness? It's their horse for goodness sakes. How is it good publicity to run your horse on a surface she may not show how good she really is?

She has won over a synthetic before, pretty impressively, if she is healthy, she should run in the BC, and quite possibly in the Classic.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Scav

She has won over a synthetic before, pretty impressively, if she is healthy, she should run in the BC, and quite possibly in the Classic.

Steve Asmussen horses don't run on synthetics.

I don't care what she did on synthetic tracks for other trainers - I will do cart wheels to bet against her on a synthetic track right now.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Steve Asmussen horses don't run on synthetics.

I don't care what she did on synthetic tracks for other trainers - I will do cart wheels to bet against her on a synthetic track right now.

You mean Asmussen de-Polyd her in 3 months? How does that work?

[justindew]

Part of me would love to see Rachel Alexandra skip the Breeders' Cup and run somewhere else on the same day. Then I'd like to see the Breeders' Cup go away forever, and have its disappearance somehow attributed to Rachel Alexandra skipping it.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

Stubborness? It's their horse for goodness sakes. How is it good publicity to run your horse on a surface she may not show how good she really is?

Why should they be afraid of a surface? They are being stubborn dirt lovers with an agenda. You have the best freakin' horse in the country...run her. It's not like she's being asked to be a polo pony or something.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by GBBob

Why should they be afraid of a surface? They are being stubborn dirt lovers with an agenda. You have the best freakin' horse in the country...run her. It's not like she's being asked to be a polo pony or something.

The same could be said of those who think the Breeder's Cup is the be all end all.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

The same could be said of those who think the Breeder's Cup is the be all end all.

Who said one has anything to do with the other?

[Arletta]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

I love Jess Jackson. Good for him.

Came across this article..

I guess we can be glad he did'nt get out back then


http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...calls-it-quits

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Arletta

Came across this article..

I guess we can be glad he did'nt get out back then


http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...calls-it-quits

Did you read the article?

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Arletta

Came across this article..

I guess we can be glad he did'nt get out back then


http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...calls-it-quits

wrong guy

[jballscalls]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

Zenyatta isn't in Rachel's zip code at this point. Rachel is running, Zenyatta is not. Rachel has tried the boys, Zenyatta has not. Sure the game could change, but right now, Rachel Alexandra is the 10-length leader in the race for Horse of the Year.

who would win??

1. Rachel Alexandra
2. Zenyatta
3. God
4. Ditka