BC shamed into making Whitney a "Win/In"

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by johnny pinwheel

i used to think breeders cup day was a good thing but i have alot of doubts now. if it were to go under, which it could, it may not be bad for racing! it used to force horses to meet at least once but now its not even going to accomplish that! why have it?

In my opinion, eliminating the Breeders' Cup would be a wonderful thing for the sport of horse racing. It was a terrible idea in the first place, and the last five years have merely highlighted the stupidity of the event. This should not be a sport designed around one freaking day (or two), and as connections attempt to win championships off of one race instead of a body of work, the summer and fall meets across the country suffer. The BC obviously isn't the only factor in this development, but it sure hasn't helped. I think the sport would be healthier now if there had never been a Breeders' Cup, but by how much it is impossible to know.
But, even with all that being said, isn't it EXTREMELY unlikely that the BC will actually be going away any time soon....if ever? Instead of going away, the damn thing keeps expanding.

As for the Saratoga thing, I am glad to see people take a 'who cares' attitude about the BC. That is what it deserves. Half of the racing days at the Spa will be more interesting than the BC anyway, so who cares what races the Saratoga winners 'qualify' to run in?

[johnny pinwheel]

Originally Posted by miraja2

In my opinion, eliminating the Breeders' Cup would be a wonderful thing for the sport of horse racing. It was a terrible idea in the first place, and the last five years have merely highlighted the stupidity of the event. This should not be a sport designed around one freaking day (or two), and as connections attempt to win championships off of one race instead of a body of work, the summer and fall meets across the country suffer. The BC obviously isn't the only factor in this development, but it sure hasn't helped. I think the sport would be healthier now if there had never been a Breeders' Cup, but by how much it is impossible to know.
But, even with all that being said, isn't it EXTREMELY unlikely that the BC will actually be going away any time soon....if ever? Instead of going away, the damn thing keeps expanding.

As for the Saratoga thing, I am glad to see people take a 'who cares' attitude about the BC. That is what it deserves. Half of the racing days at the Spa will be more interesting than the BC anyway, so who cares what races the Saratoga winners 'qualify' to run in?

i agree with most of what you are saying. but i feel the expansion is helping it go away, it did not help. site selection is definetly helping it go away because of lack of interest and the poly tracks (2 years in a row)don't help. you are right a body of proven races is a way better system, than this one race deal that they push. anyone that seriously follows horse racing realizes that ANYTHING can happen in one race and ONE race is a poor way to judge ability. thank goodness that everyone doesn't vote with just the breeders cup results or you would have horses running like twice a year! you are absolutely right about saratoga, the races are better anyway, every saturday and sunday is as good as it gets. two years ago i saw every winner of the breeders cup prep here in ny before they won at monmouth. the only one that didn't was kip deville. now the breeders cup committee thinks it needs one of these races in saratoga? maybe NYRA should of said "no thanks". belmont and saratoga will ALWAYS have the best racing in the summer and fall REGAURDLESS of what happens to the BC. and if aqueduct gets the slots, i predict new york racing will be far and away the best. the BC will be begging to come here or they will be all done !

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by miraja2

In my opinion, eliminating the Breeders' Cup would be a wonderful thing for the sport of horse racing. It was a terrible idea in the first place, and the last five years have merely highlighted the stupidity of the event. This should not be a sport designed around one freaking day (or two), and as connections attempt to win championships off of one race instead of a body of work, the summer and fall meets across the country suffer. The BC obviously isn't the only factor in this development, but it sure hasn't helped. I think the sport would be healthier now if there had never been a Breeders' Cup, but by how much it is impossible to know.
But, even with all that being said, isn't it EXTREMELY unlikely that the BC will actually be going away any time soon....if ever? Instead of going away, the damn thing keeps expanding.

As for the Saratoga thing, I am glad to see people take a 'who cares' attitude about the BC. That is what it deserves. Half of the racing days at the Spa will be more interesting than the BC anyway, so who cares what races the Saratoga winners 'qualify' to run in?

Without a BC there is no way in hell Bernardini, Invasor, and Lava Man would have all met up. I find it completely pointless to watch a sport where the top contenders don't meet so in that regard the BC is a good thing. Unfortunately the last two years on the synthetic has ruined it because we don't see the best horses match up and even when they do (like with Curlin against the Euros) the result feels cheapened.

The BC isn't the problem, the problem is the rest of the season. Do away with voting for the Eclipse Awards and go to a point system in each division that uses your top six races each year. Give people an incentive to race their horses all year instead of just trying to get them to peak on BC Day knowing that a win there will net you an Eclipse.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Without a BC there is no way in hell Bernardini, Invasor, and Lava Man would have all met up. I find it completely pointless to watch a sport where the top contenders don't meet so in that regard the BC is a good thing. Unfortunately the last two years on the synthetic has ruined it because we don't see the best horses match up and even when they do (like with Curlin against the Euros) the result feels cheapened.

The BC isn't the problem, the problem is the rest of the season. Do away with voting for the Eclipse Awards and go to a point system in each division that uses your top six races each year. Give people an incentive to race their horses all year instead of just trying to get them to peak on BC Day knowing that a win there will net you an Eclipse.

I don't understand why many people don't get this. If it wasn't for the BC, we would get very few matchups of top horses. The horses would pretty much be kept in their regions and never meet up. There are so many spots on the schedule to race that they can be kept apart easily.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

I don't understand why many people don't get this. If it wasn't for the BC, we would get very few matchups of top horses. The horses would pretty much be kept in their regions and never meet up. There are so many spots on the schedule to race that they can be kept apart easily.

But KG, to many..there is no racing West of Albany

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by GBBob

But KG, to many..there is no racing West of Albany

Well no important racing anyway.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by GBBob

But KG, to many..there is no racing West of Albany

Hell, I live in Cali and since they've put down that junk at their tracks, I can't even argue this belief anymore.