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[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Drabek is overrated. Phillies should be thrilled to get Halladay for him. The one that they don't want to trade is Michael Taylor. Dominic Brown would be tough to give up as well. If they can come up with any package of Drabek that doesn't include Taylor or Brown to get Halladay it would be an absolute steal. I think Toronto will demand one of the two though.

why is Drabek overrated? Because he had TJ surgery? he's been awesome and has some real nice pitches.

Taylor is a beast. Freaking awesome & super fast for a 6'6" man. Brown is really good & we have a real good quality catcher in the minors, along with some other pitchers.

Honestly I think the Phils would rather trade Happ than let Drabek go. Him and Taylor are "untouchable".

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

why is Drabek overrated? Because he had TJ surgery? he's been awesome and has some real nice pitches.

Taylor is a beast. Freaking awesome & super fast for a 6'6" man. Brown is really good & we have a real good quality catcher in the minors, along with some other pitchers.

Honestly I think the Phils would rather trade Happ than let Drabek go. Him and Taylor are "untouchable".

Drabek doesn't have great control and isn't overpowering. And yeah, already having had Tommy John surgery is a concern especially since he doesn't have a huge frame to fall back on. If his Dad wasn't a former pitcher I don't buy that he would be a highly touted prospect. Happ has no real value, if they have to throw him in to get Halladay then they should.

[Crown@club]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

Honestly I think the Phils would rather trade Happ than let Drabek go. Him and Taylor are "untouchable".

There's rumblings that Philly brass think Happ is the second coming of Steve Carlton. I hate when my drink ends up in my nose.

[declansharbor]

Happ is pitching lights out for the Phils, even eclisping Hamels. I'd be super pissed if they were to include him in a deal along with the farm chips to land Halladay. I know that teams in this sport have very small windows at the top, but I wouldnt mortgage the future on a deal that looks like it could be a lateral move in a few years. Taylor, Drabek and/or Happ seems to be too much to risk losing.

That said, i'm not sure what move they are going to make for the rotation. Pedro isnt the #2 that my friends all think he's going to be. I told them last night that they are out of their friggin minds for even thinking he should take Blanton's spot in the roto. He's our 4th starter, at best, and may even have trouble holding that spot down the stretch. Do they sit idle and wait for Bastardo to come back, or do they run Moyer out there every 5th day while looking to make an outside move? These are questions I'm sure Ruben Amaro is asking Pat Gillick on conference calls.