7/18 (CNL): Virginia Derby (G2); Virginia Oaks (G3)

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Laughable in respect to how overbet he was on the dirt or laughable in respect to the fact that some people can't look past his pedigree and see that he's a pretty good turf horse?

he's gonna be 2nd choice in a G1 (IMO) and thats laughable as to how NOT loaded this field is, and how his pedigree will still get him overbet

-bt-

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by -BT-

he's gonna be 2nd choice in a G1 (IMO) and thats laughable as to how NOT loaded this field is, and how his pedigree will still get him overbet

-bt-

Granted this isn't exactly Artie Schiller vs. Kitten's Joy but this is a pretty good field from the standpoint of accomplishments and potential.

I think there's an excellent chance that races like the Secretariat, Jamaica and Hollywood Derby (G1 for 3YO on turf) will be won by horses in this field.

NT

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by -BT-

he's gonna be 2nd choice in a G1 (IMO) and thats laughable as to how NOT loaded this field is, and how his pedigree will still get him overbet

-bt-

You lost me here. Are you talking about the Secretariat?

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23

You lost me here. Are you talking about the Secretariat?

no, but when you're a race track and you prop your biggest race up with headlines like this:

Nicanor, A Full Brother to Barbaro, Headlines $750,000 Virginia Derby FieldShare
Today at 7:38am
A field of ten three year old horses entered Monday afternoon’s post position draw for the 12th running of the $750,000 Virginia Derby (Gr. II) at Colonial Downs. The Derby...

it kinda gets annoying, but hey thats just me

-bt-

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by -BT-

no, but when you're a race track and you prop your biggest race up with headlines like this:

Nicanor, A Full Brother to Barbaro, Headlines $750,000 Virginia Derby FieldShare
Today at 7:38am
A field of ten three year old horses entered Monday afternoon’s post position draw for the 12th running of the $750,000 Virginia Derby (Gr. II) at Colonial Downs. The Derby...

it kinda gets annoying, but hey thats just me

-bt-

If it gets people to the track....

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Originally Posted by Sightseek

If it gets people to the track....

totally agree, and headlines like that is what drives the price down on a horse like nicanor, NOT his resume.

** you would think they would push the whole Battle Of Hasting and the $5M bonus as a headline


-bt-

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by -BT-

totally agree, and headlines like that is what drives the price down on a horse like nicanor, NOT his resume.

** you would think they would push the whole Battle Of Hasting and the $5M bonus as a headline


-bt-

That bonus is a joke cause the BC Turf is the last leg of it.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

That bonus is a joke cause the BC Turf is the last leg of it.

Right, because Battle of Hastings would need a bus ticket to get 12 furlongs.

NT

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by -BT-

totally agree, and headlines like that is what drives the price down on a horse like nicanor, NOT his resume.

** you would think they would push the whole Battle Of Hasting and the $5M bonus as a headline


-bt-

In other words, turn them onto the horse that has no shot?

Were you there for the Colonial Turf Cup? The attendance was depressing. I really hope they pull this track together and resolve their wagering issues. Getting higher purses is probably never going to happen though..

[-BT-]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

In other words, turn them onto the horse that has no shot?

Were you there for the Colonial Turf Cup? The attendance was depressing. I really hope they pull this track together and resolve their wagering issues. Getting higher purses is probably never going to happen though..

you talking about the whole ADW thing with twinspires?
i thought the attendence was kinda solid, granted you wouldn't find me there on a thursday night, but ALL the box seats and dinning room seats were sold out.
i was there for the turf cup, actually only race i came outside to watch. they kinda dropped the ball though, i remember there being ZERO race call, NOTHING. and after the race the odds board was on the fritz, then there was an inquiry, it was all over the place

bunch of friends and i are going for "derby experience", gonna be chilling on the hill. Absoultely the worst angle to watch a race from (turn 1 past the finish line), but they say they're gonna have tellers and tvs so it should make up for it. PLUS, the $20 ticket allows you to BYOB, and even though its a LONG ride back to nova, its worth it

you going?

-bt-

[Sightseek]

Guys I think your nuts if you're going to bet against Nicanor, not even Secretariat had a victory so dominating!

Trainer Michael Matz entered Nicanor in a maiden race at Delaware Park on May 13, where he picked up his first win in dominant fashion -- by more than 15 furlongs.

http://www.timesdispatch.com/rtd/spo...222809/279833/

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Originally Posted by Sightseek

Guys I think your nuts if you're going to bet against Nicanor, not even Secretariat had a victory so dominating!

Trainer Michael Matz entered Nicanor in a maiden race at Delaware Park on May 13, where he picked up his first win in dominant fashion -- by more than 15 furlongs.

http://www.timesdispatch.com/rtd/spo...222809/279833/

please make 20K copies of this article and make sure everyone with paid attendance recives a copy...........please

-bt-

[hockey2315]

Anyone who doesn't think Nicanor is going to get bet very hard is kidding themselves.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by -BT-

please make 20K copies of this article and make sure everyone with paid attendance recives a copy...........please

-bt-

Do you think most of them will know what a furlong is though?

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

lime rickey at 1 1/4 ill eat my hat..

[DaTruth]

My initial reaction after the race was to blame Lopez for engaging Affirmatif too soon and trying to get a 3 furlong run out of Straight Story. But, on second thought, I really can't blame Lopez as he was put in a tough position when Floretino didn't go for the early lead and Affirmatif was all alone out there on the lead.