Gotta love Saratoga/NYRA - Condition Book

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

It has to do with the fact that you're touting 2YOs from a trainer that has had little to no success with 2YOs at Saratoga in the last 5 years. In fact, two of those winners came for a tag.

My statement was intended for those that weren't familiar, specifically so that they could find out that Kenneally is not a trainer who does particularly well with 2YOs at the Spa. I'm glad you got some inside information though, I'm sure you'll do great.

NT

Again what does his stock of 2 yr olds for this year have anything to do with what he had in the barn over the last 5 yrs

He will have a positive ROI with his 2 yr olds at saratoga this year , i will wager if you like Steve can hold the $$$$

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by gales0678

Again what does his stock of 2 yr olds for this year have anything to do with what he had in the barn over the last 5 yrs

He will have a positive ROI with his 2 yr olds at saratoga this year , i will wager if you like Steve can hold the $$$$

I'm flattered that you think I give a s.hit about whether Eddie Kenneally has a positive ROI at the meet with 2YOs. I don't.

NT

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

I'm flattered that you think I give a s.hit about whether Eddie Kenneally has a positive ROI at the meet with 2YOs. I don't.

NT

if you didn't give a s**t you would have stayed out of the thread , you're full of s**t

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by gales0678

if you didn't give a s**t you would have stayed out of the thread , you're full of s**t

You're right, I mean, who could resist saying something that would evoke such a reaction out of you?

By the way, your man is 3-16 with 2YOs this year including 1-12 with 2YOs in MSW races. That's good for an ROI of $0.42. Overall, he's at a cool $1.57 since his 2 MCL winners paid well.

Again, I hope your source provides good information and you profit, but all I did was make available to everyone here some ironclad facts.

NT

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

You're right, I mean, who could resist saying something that would evoke such a reaction out of you?

By the way, your man is 3-16 with 2YOs this year including 1-12 with 2YOs in MSW races. That's good for an ROI of $0.42. Overall, he's at a cool $1.57 since his 2 MCL winners paid well.

Again, I hope your source provides good information and you profit, but all I did was make available to everyone here some ironclad facts.

NT

but again , please tell me what the last 5 yrs has to do with the stock he is taking to 'toga this year

are the same 2 yr olds going with him to 'toga this year?

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by gales0678

but again , please tell me what the last 5 yrs has to do with the stock he is taking to 'toga this year

are the same 2 yr olds going with him to 'toga this year?

No basic logic courses in college for you, Gales?

the same 2 year olds aren't going but the same crew is --- a crew that's shown to be pretty much INEPT at winning with 2 year olds (1st time starters, whatever). That's what the data is showing.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

No basic logic courses in college for you, Gales?

the same 2 year olds aren't going but the same crew is --- a crew that's shown to be pretty much INEPT at winning with 2 year olds (1st time starters, whatever). That's what the data is showing.

woolley was 0 for how many before the derby? Borel was what 30% or something ridiculously high at CD on 2 turn stakes races and it went higher if it was a muddy track - data can go both ways

didn't bill mott have a big year a couple of years ago with 2 yr olds ....a guy that had couldn't get 2 yr olds to win? if you looked at the data on mott for 2 yr olds you didn't play him that yr and lost out on many winners some at generous prices

Ed K will have a positive ROI with his 2 yr olds at saratoga this year , you won't read it in the booklet that they hand out , they will tell you to bet all the outfits that did well last year or 2 years ago .....it comes down to who has the horses steve you know that..

[JerseyJ]

Originally Posted by gales0678

but again , please tell me what the last 5 yrs has to do with the stock he is taking to 'toga this year

are the same 2 yr olds going with him to 'toga this year?

You just don't get it apparently...That stats back up the fact that when Keaneally goes up to Saratoga with 2YOs, he simply doesn't do well for whatever reason. I mean yeah, he may do ok up there, but unfortunately for you and him there's going to be other horses running in the same 2YO races that Keaneally runs horses in. He's not going to be running races against mules. His 2YOs at Churchill have been running against maybe 4 trainers who are anything with 2YOs or that have any type of 2YOs in the barn (Assmussen, Amoss, Scherer, and Lukas). In case you didn't know there are trainers named Zito, Baffert, Pletcher, McLaughlin, and others. Historically he has not had his 2YOs ready to fire their best shot, what makes this year any different...

[gales0678]

[quote=JerseyJ]You just don't get it apparently...That stats back up the fact that when Keaneally goes up to Saratoga with 2YOs, he simply doesn't do well for whatever reason. I mean yeah, he may do ok up there, but unfortunately for you and him there's going to be other horses running in the same 2YO races that Keaneally runs horses in. He's not going to be running races against mules. His 2YOs at Churchill have been running against maybe 4 trainers who are anything with 2YOs or that have any type of 2YOs in the barn (Assmussen, Amoss, Scherer, and Lukas). In case you didn't know there are trainers named Zito, Baffert, Pletcher, McLaughlin, and others. Historically he has not had his 2YOs ready to fire their best shot, what makes this year any different...[/QUOTE]

the horses in the barn this year are different