Stauffer's call of the 6th tonight.

Excellent post, Chalky.

[rontheman1964]

Hey wait a minute....if Vic can indeed influence the outcome of races with his race calls....we are all missing out on a golden opportunity to become incredibly wealthy. Vic just has to let us know who he will be favoring in his calls and we will all be camped out in the cashier's line.

See how absurd this thread is???? Nuff said.....

[Bobby Fischer]

Originally Posted by rontheman1964

Hey wait a minute....if Vic can indeed influence the outcome of races with his race calls....we are all missing out on a golden opportunity to become incredibly wealthy. Vic just has to let us know who he will be favoring in his calls and we will all be camped out in the cashier's line.

See how absurd this thread is???? Nuff said.....

lol it is kind of hilarious to imagine the kind of call a race announcer would give if his sole intention was to shout alerts and advice to his jockey.

[eajinabi]

If Vic is betting a race, is it a rule that he must bet on Rosario only?

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by eajinabi

If Vic is betting a race, is it a rule that he must bet on Rosario only?

I'm pretty sure they can bet whatever they want. It would be a very slippery slope if they tried to regulate what people so far removed from the actual races bet.

[Indian Charlie]

All I can say is wow!

I just watched the replay, and based on what I saw and heard, Gossard is clearly just trying to stir up shid.

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

All I can say is wow!

I just watched the replay, and based on what I saw and heard, Gossard is clearly just trying to stir up shid.

So let me get this straight. You come on here before saying I am out of my mind/starting a dumb thread, and now you just watched the race ? Kind of weak on your part. I guess you just blindly follow the VS Fanclub on here or what other people tell you. Try and think for yourself at times.

Douglas is not going to be happy when I report to him that his good friend IC is a mindless fool who can't think for himself.

[stonegossard]

It's funny how people will say I am being ridiculous, then others turn this conversation into Vic's calls actually effecting an outcome of the race. I am 99.9% sure I wasn't saying that.

Gotta love some of the geniuses that post here. These same people are most likely part of a partnership that owns The Brooklyn Bridge.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by Bobby Fischer

lol it is kind of hilarious to imagine the kind of call a race announcer would give if his sole intention was to shout alerts and advice to his jockey.

Absurb or not Rosario is a better rider statistically at Hollywood Pk than he is at Santa Anita or Delmar. Let's examine his record the last 3 meets:

Hol - 301 67 = 22.25% (excluding today's card)
SA - 537 83 = 15.46%
Del - 254 36 = 14.17%

Perhaps it's coincidental but interesting nevertheless, maybe he likes Vic's pipes.

[HaloWishingwell]

I'm still waiting for as rallying Roasrio and the call of "get that f^%king horse out of his way!" leading to "die you co*%sucking frontrunner!"

Originally Posted by HaloWishingwell

I'm still waiting for as rallying Roasrio and the call of "get that f^%king horse out of his way!" leading to "die you co*%sucking frontrunner!"

Have that saved for closing day. Oh wait. That's a rehearsed call. Oh Oh better start a new thread.

[DerbyCat]

Like others here, I have followed these threads but refrained from commenting because I disliked the venom that is being spewed by some folks on this board. I finally listened to the race call and yes, Rosario's horses name is featured prominently in the later stages of the race but it appears to be due primarily to the burst of speed and continued momentum of the horse. If I was not looking for it ("it" being that the announcer was the agent for the jockey on Ellie L.) I would have thought nothing of the call - I actually would have been impressed and might have believed that the announcer could sense that Ellie L. was moving strongly forward and that the leading horse could falter and might not finish well, thus putting an emphasis on the next most likely horse. I did not hear a bias in the call, but that's my opinion.

What I would be interested to see is a posting of more races where this "bias" is prominent because I don't believe anyone can conclude that this particular announcer is emphasizing one specific jockey in his calls from just one race, I certainly can't. Assuming the Hollywood meet lasts approximately 60 days with an average of nine races per day, that's 540 races to call. If someone can post 25 races (less than 5% of all races this meet) where the majority of DTers would agree that the announcer showed bias towards Rosario's horse in his call then I believe we could show statistical significance to the original posters claim. Without that, it appears we're all taking sides like an elementary school playground fight.

[Riot]

I like Vic's calls alot, precisely because he does notice which horses are coming into contention, he is accurately descriptive of the way they are traveling (relaxed, fighting, etc), he gets excited during a good race, and he doesn't miss much.

[dagolfer33]

Originally Posted by DerbyCat

Like others here, I have followed these threads but refrained from commenting because I disliked the venom that is being spewed by some folks on this board. I finally listened to the race call and yes, Rosario's horses name is featured prominently in the later stages of the race but it appears to be due primarily to the burst of speed and continued momentum of the horse. If I was not looking for it ("it" being that the announcer was the agent for the jockey on Ellie L.) I would have thought nothing of the call - I actually would have been impressed and might have believed that the announcer could sense that Ellie L. was moving strongly forward and that the leading horse could falter and might not finish well, thus putting an emphasis on the next most likely horse. I did not hear a bias in the call, but that's my opinion.

What I would be interested to see is a posting of more races where this "bias" is prominent because I don't believe anyone can conclude that this particular announcer is emphasizing one specific jockey in his calls from just one race, I certainly can't. Assuming the Hollywood meet lasts approximately 60 days with an average of nine races per day, that's 540 races to call. If someone can post 25 races (less than 5% of all races this meet) where the majority of DTers would agree that the announcer showed bias towards Rosario's horse in his call then I believe we could show statistical significance to the original posters claim. Without that, it appears we're all taking sides like an elementary school playground fight.

I agree with you, the best way to settle it is start 25 polls for each of the races.....then after everyone votes on them and agrees with a clear cut majority there is no prejudice in his calls, hear a certain few call the majority morons. Wait, we already did that. My bad.

[HaloWishingwell]

Originally Posted by v j stauffer

Have that saved for closing day. Oh wait. That's a rehearsed call. Oh Oh better start a new thread.

You'll be using earlier than you think....Hollywood Gold Cup

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by v j stauffer

Have that saved for closing day. Oh wait. That's a rehearsed call. Oh Oh better start a new thread.

No need to. After closing day won't have to worry about your calls on a major circuit again.

Originally Posted by stonegossard

No need to. After closing day won't have to worry about your calls on a major circuit again.

You really are just a HATER aren't you? Whatever. I wish you and yours nothing but the best.

Thanks for listening.

VJS

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by rontheman1964

Hey wait a minute....if Vic can indeed influence the outcome of races with his race calls....we are all missing out on a golden opportunity to become incredibly wealthy. Vic just has to let us know who he will be favoring in his calls and we will all be camped out in the cashier's line.

See how absurd this thread is???? Nuff said.....

I will say one thing, the discussion may or may not be absurd......but your post certainly qualifies as such.