Cap and Trade vote on Friday

Originally Posted by wiphan

All this bill would do is force manufacturing out of the us, cost EVERYONE in the US more $. If you truly believe global warming is a problem, wouldn't pushing manufacturing etc. out of the US and into countries with less pollution regulation cause more issues globally than if we did nothing.
Also, if people are old enough to remember back in grade school years back they were worried about global colding and teaching that in schools. It will be a high of 63 degrees here today and it is the first of july. Global warming, really?

I am now convinced there is no global warming.
Impeccable data.

[Smooth Operator]

Ah, finally some indisputable proof of "global colding" ... lol

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by Smooth Operator

Ah, finally some indisputable proof of "global colding" ... lol

The point is not to prove global colding only to point out the fact that scientist, etc have argued both ways at different points in time. Data can be read and interpretated different ways depending on who is providing and receiving the data. The fact of the matter is no person can honestly say that cap and trade will improve GLOBAL POLLUTION. All it does is cost tax payers more money and the less you make the more high a percentage you will pay in reference to your income. This is the most regressive tax proposal I can remember

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by pgardn

I am now convinced there is no global warming.
Impeccable data.

lol


It feels like I am jumping into a really really hot, hot tub every time i step outside. But then again I do live in the middle of Florida and it is July.

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

lol


It feels like I am jumping into a really really hot, hot tub every time i step outside. But then again I do live in the middle of Florida and it is July.

And damn you for all the rain you have taken from us.
But look. The tease from mother nature again. This front is moving south.

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[wiphan]

Originally Posted by pgardn

I am now convinced there is no global warming.
Impeccable data.

Since you believe in global warming, are you convinced that Cap and trade helps improve the environment and will ultimately improve global pollution?

Originally Posted by wiphan

Since you believe in global warming, are you convinced that Cap and trade helps improve the environment and will ultimately improve global pollution?

Absolutely not.
I am not convinced.

I am much more confident that the earth is going through
a warming period.

Originally Posted by wiphan

Since you believe in global warming

And what do you believe?

Sources would be appreciated as I have read a lot.

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by pgardn

And what do you believe?

Sources would be appreciated as I have read a lot.

I am not educated enough on the subject to tell you whether or not global warming does or does not exist. I know that there are arguements on both sides. What I do know is that by instituting cap and trade in America you will not solve anything. Obviously if you are concerned with Global warming the problem is a global problem and not just problem in the US. By instituting cap and trade in America you would push more manufacturing out of the US and into countries with even less restrictions than we have which I believe would cause more issues long term.

Originally Posted by wiphan

I am not educated enough on the subject to tell you whether or not global warming does or does not exist. I know that there are arguements on both sides. What I do know is that by instituting cap and trade in America you will not solve anything. Obviously if you are concerned with Global warming the problem is a global problem and not just problem in the US. By instituting cap and trade in America you would push more manufacturing out of the US and into countries with even less restrictions than we have which I believe would cause more issues long term.

This above of course is all moot if the period of
warming that I believe is occurring is indeed
caused by human activity.