shaq to the Cavs

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

Ilgauskas has one more year left. He's retiring after this year. They will absolutely pay him to back up Shaq and play 20 minutes a game. It means nothing to them. This upcoming year is it for them. They don't have to win the championship...but I think they have to get to the finals and make a good showing to absolutely ensure what's his name stays.

The point is rather moot. They will pay ilguaskas because they have no choice but to pay him. but anyone that thinks that an NBA team would pay a guy 10 million for 20 minutes a game BY CHOICE simply has no understanding of the finances of the game. The only guy that would do that is Isaiah.

At this point, Z is a bad contract. At ten million, if he wasnt, there would be no need for a 38 year old shaq.

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

The point is rather moot. They will pay ilguaskas because they have no choice but to pay him. but anyone that thinks that an NBA team would pay a guy 10 million for 20 minutes a game BY CHOICE simply has no understanding of the finances of the game. The only guy that would do that is Isaiah.

At this point, Z is a bad contract. At ten million, if he wasnt, there would be no need for a 38 year old shaq.

AGain, you're arguing about nothing as you always accuse me of doing. They want to win it all next year and nothing less than a finals appearance. As Cannon said, money is not a consideration at all this year. They'll need him next year...mainly for regular season minutes. As a team's number two center, he'll be the best in the league...as a number 1 center not so much, with his athletic challenges.

Do you have any understanding of the NBA situation in Cleveland right now?? Cannon said it perfectly. They become a non-entity if what's his name leaves.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

AGain, you're arguing about nothing as you always accuse me of doing. They want to win it all next year and nothing less than a finals appearance. As Cannon said, money is not a consideration at all this year. They'll need him next year...mainly for regular season minutes. As a team's number two center, he'll be the best in the league...as a number 1 center not so much, with his athletic challenges.

Do you have any understanding of the NBA situation in Cleveland right now?? Cannon said it perfectly. They become a non-entity if what's his name leaves.

Yawn....

Do you think Z's agent doesnt have a grasp on this situation? Z has a player option...right now. He can opt out.

If he was in a position where Cleveland really wanted to keep him, why wouldnt he just opt out and force cleveland to either pay him more or extend his contract?

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Yawn....

Do you think Z's agent doesnt have a grasp on this situation? Z has a player option...right now. He can opt out.

If he was in a position where Cleveland really wanted to keep him, why wouldnt he just opt out and force cleveland to either pay him more or extend his contract?

My guess is because he is one of the nicest guys to ever suit up in the NBA. One of the classiest individuals ever. He is going to retire after this year which is why I'm guessing he won't opt out. I could be wrong, but I think this is a mega-character guy.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

My guess is because he is one of the nicest guys to ever suit up in the NBA. One of the classiest individuals ever. He is going to retire after this year which is why I'm guessing he won't opt out. I could be wrong, but I think this is a mega-character guy.

LOL. are you kidding me? Yeah, his agent is a "charcter guy" too i bet. LOL.

They won't opt out because they know neither the cavs nor anyone else will give him the 11.5 million he will make next year. But maybe that is too logical...never mind. We can go with the "character guy" thing.

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

LOL. are you kidding me? Yeah, his agent is a "charcter guy" too i bet. LOL.

They won't opt out because they know neither the cavs nor anyone else will give him the 11.5 million he will make next year. But maybe that is too logical...never mind. We can go with the "character guy" thing.

What are you talking about?? He's done. He's played in Cleveland his whole career. He likes playing with LeBron. He has 8,000 screws in his feet. HE has no desire to play for anyone else and really his career is ending. He is a popular player. I honestly don't know what you're talking about.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

What are you talking about?? He's done. He's played in Cleveland his whole career. He likes playing with LeBron. He has 8,000 screws in his feet. HE has no desire to play for anyone else and really his career is ending. He is a popular player. I honestly don't know what you're talking about.

He has a PLAYER OPTION. He is getting paid 11.5. If the Cavs needed him and didnt care about moeny, why wouldnt he opt out and get paid more????

It really is that simple. And the answer as to why he doesnt?

A. Because there is no way the cavs or anyone else will pay him that much.

B. Because he is a "character guy" and so is his agent.


You are right. B is the answer.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Yawn....

Do you think Z's agent doesnt have a grasp on this situation? Z has a player option...right now. He can opt out.

If he was in a position where Cleveland really wanted to keep him, why wouldnt he just opt out and force cleveland to either pay him more or extend his contract?

Why would he opt out? If he did then Cleveland would almost certainly offer him less to re-sign. I am not saying there is a great demand for him or that Cleveland wants to sign him long term. But they need a safety net and he provides the best option out there.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Why would he opt out? If he did then Cleveland would almost certainly offer him less to re-sign. I am not saying there is a great demand for him or that Cleveland wants to sign him long term. But they need a safety net and he provides the best option out there.

But isnt what you are saying furthering my point that what they are paying him, 11.5 for 18 minutes a game, is not by choice?

If they could get rid of that contract and sign Pechulia for 6 million, you dont think they would?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

But isnt what you are saying furthering my point that what they are paying him, 11.5 for 18 minutes a game, is not by choice?

If they could get rid of that contract and sign Pechulia for 6 million, you dont think they would?

That isnt going to happen so it is a moot point. That guy isnt going to take a one year contract. Not to mention with him not opting out the Cavs will have tons of money available next year with both centers contracts expiring. I think that he will wind up with more regular season minutes than Shaq.