6/27-28 (BEL): Mother Goose (G1); First Flight H. (G2)

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I hope this is a joke.

my feeling is I can never judge a three year old until they face elders, she clearly is a very good horse because she dominated MTB though.

It was a semi joke, I want more proof before I get on the "she is better then Ruffian" bandwagon.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

my feeling is I can never judge a three year old until they face elders, she clearly is a very good horse because she dominated MTB though.

It was a semi joke, I want more proof before I get on the "she is better then Ruffian" bandwagon.

You were trying to top yourself I assume?

Nobody that knows anything about racing is claiming she is an all-time great.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

You were trying to top yourself I assume?

Nobody that knows anything about racing is claiming she is an all-time great.

just on the message boards my friend, and believe me they all think they know.

[Bigsmc]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

just on the message boards my friend, and believe me they all think they know.

I must have missed those threads.

[letswastemoney]

Hey does anyone like Don't Forget Gil for 2nd? RA could end up cooking Flashing and Malibu Prayer on the front end, setting it up for DFG.

[SOREHOOF]

Doubt if there will be exacta wagering.http://www.drf.com/news/article/105026.html

[10 pnt move up]

3 horses, is that a joke, all three are now grade 1 placed no matter the outcome.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

my feeling is I can never judge a three year old until they face elders, she clearly is a very good horse because she dominated MTB though.

It was a semi joke, I want more proof before I get on the "she is better then Ruffian" bandwagon.

So when Easy Goer was running against Sunday Silence, you couldn't judge him until after he faced older in the Whitney? and you couldn't get a feeling on Sunday Silence until he won the BC?

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

So when Easy Goer was running against Sunday Silence, you couldn't judge him until after he faced older in the Whitney? and you couldn't get a feeling on Sunday Silence until he won the BC?

your comparing racing from 1989 to 2009? Come on, and War Emblem looked like a world beater at this time of the year as well.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

your comparing racing from 1989 to 2009? Come on, and War Emblem looked like a world beater at this time of the year as well.

The point is that the whole thing about needing to beat older is extremely overrated. what matters is beating the best competition and sometimes, that best competition comes from within your own division. Look at Goldikova last year. she beat older horses and males at the same time. but she couldn't beat Zarkava, a fellow 3yo filly. I want to see Zenyatta take on the boys this year but I'd rather see her face Rachel Alexandra than face Bullsbay in the Hollywood Gold Cup. Life is Sweet isn't going to be voted as champion over Zenyatta if she wins the Gold Cup simply because she stepped outside of her division. It's about the competition, not the age or sex.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

The point is that the whole thing about needing to beat older is extremely overrated.

As a side note, the irony of the whole Rachel Alexandra-Ruffian comparison is that Ruffian never ran against her elders.