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Old 06-22-2009, 01:36 PM
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How about a main pick and an one and only one alternate to be used if the main pick scratches. I think whomever is the leader should post their picks first(by noon raceday). We don't want another situation where the leader simply picks the same horses as we saw in our prior contest. Even with this format I can forsee many instances when the picks will be the same. Good Luck... Should be fun

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6/27/2009 Mother Goose S. I 9 Furlongs 3 Belmont Park 4:00 PM
6/27/2009 King Edward S. II 9 Furlongs (T) 3+ Woodbine 4:00 PM
6/27/2009 Boiling Springs S. III 8.5 Furlongs (T) 3 Monmouth Park 4:00 PM
6/27/2009 Debutante S. III 6 Furlongs 2 Churchill Downs 5:00 PM
6/27/2009 Cornhusker H. II 9 Furlongs 3+ Prairie Meadows 5:00 PM
6/27/2009 Vanity H. I 9 Furlongs 3+ Hollywood Park 7:00 PM
I still think there's a potentially exploitable flaw with someone posting their picks first each week, but I guess there's no better way. The alternate thing for scratches will probably be extra work, but once again I guess we don't have a choice. The King Edward doesn't qualify under the conditions I originally listed, but I guess we can add all graded stakes in Canada too if you really want. Are we going to have a prize/something at stake? Personally I'd rather put up my future first born child than have to leave my beloved Derby Trail.
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Old 06-22-2009, 01:44 PM
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Personally I'd rather put up my future first born child than have to leave my beloved Derby Trail.
ello elle.

As I said.. No one has to leave anywhere. I'd prefer $100 wagers in these contests with proceed to TRF or ReRun or Anna House or racing charity of winner's choice.
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Old 06-22-2009, 01:46 PM
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Sounds good to me. . .
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Old 06-22-2009, 02:39 PM
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I still think there's a potentially exploitable flaw with someone posting their picks first each week, but I guess there's no better way. The alternate thing for scratches will probably be extra work, but once again I guess we don't have a choice. The King Edward doesn't qualify under the conditions I originally listed, but I guess we can add all graded stakes in Canada too if you really want. Are we going to have a prize/something at stake? Personally I'd rather put up my future first born child than have to leave my beloved Derby Trail.
Sorry I didn't review your qualifications closely... I'm ok with ditching the King Edward... No need for anyone to leave town... Since I see you are in your early 20's stakes maybe a bit harder to come by. We can play for honor or take Steve up on his idea of a donation to an Equine charity...
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Old 06-22-2009, 02:43 PM
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Sorry I didn't review your qualifications closely... I'm ok with ditching the King Edward... No need for anyone to leave town... Since I see you are in your early 20's stakes maybe a bit harder to come by. We can play for honor or take Steve up on his idea of a donation to an Equine charity...
A moderate sized bet isn't a problem for me at all, but I kind of like Steve's idea. . . keeps it more civil and I plan on betting most of these races anyways. Whatever you want. . .
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Old 06-23-2009, 06:10 AM
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Ok Then per Steve's recommendation 100 bucks to the charity of the winners choice. Last Digit of the dow close this Thursday has the option of posting last week 1 (you 1-5 me 6-0). Person posting 1st has to have their picks in by noon (would agree to 10.00 penalty against contest earnings for failing to do this).. Good Luck.
Here is the schedule for June/July per NTRA.

6/27/2009 Mother Goose S. I 9 Furlongs 3 Belmont Park 4:00 PM
6/27/2009 Boiling Springs S. III 8.5 Furlongs (T) 3 Monmouth Park 4:00 PM
6/27/2009 Debutante S. III 6 Furlongs 2 Churchill Downs 5:00 PM
6/27/2009 Cornhusker H. II 9 Furlongs 3+ Prairie Meadows 5:00 PM
6/27/2009 Vanity H. I 9 Furlongs 3+ Hollywood Park 7:00 PM

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7/4/2009 United Nations S. I 11 Furlongs (T) 3+ Monmouth Park 4:00 PM
7/4/2009 Salvator Mile S. III 1 Mile 3+ Monmouth Park 4:00 PM
7/4/2009 Suburban H. II 10 Furlongs 3+ Belmont Park 4:00 PM
7/4/2009 Prioress S. I 6 Furlongs 3 Belmont Park 4:00 PM
7/4/2009 Dwyer S. II 8.5 Furlongs 3 Belmont Park 4:00 PM
7/4/2009 Firecracker H. II 1 Mile (T) 3+ Churchill Downs 5:00 PM
7/4/2009 Chicago H. III 7 Furlongs 3+ Arlington Park 5:00 PM
7/4/2009 American H. II 9 Furlongs (T) 3+ Hollywood Park 7:00 PM

7/5/2009 American Oaks Invitational I 10 Furlongs (T) 3 Hollywood Park 7:00
7/5/2009 Triple Bend H. I 7 Furlongs 3+ Hollywood Park 7:00 PM

7/11/2009 Princess Rooney H.I 6 Furlongs 3+ Calder Race Course 4:00 PM
7/11/2009 Smile Sprint H. II 6 Furlongs 3+ Calder Race Course 4:00 PM
7/11/2009 Azalea S. III 6 Furlongs 3 Calder Race Course 4:00 PM
7/11/2009 Carry Back S. II 6 Furlongs 3 Calder Race Course 4:00 PM
7/11/2009 Man o' War I 11 Furlongs (T) 3+ Belmont Park 4:00 PM
7/11/2009 American Derby II 9.5 Furlongs (T) 3 Arlington Park 5:00 PM
7/11/2009 Arlington H. III 10 Furlongs (T) 3+ Arlington Park 5:00 PM
7/11/2009 Modesty H. III 9.5 Furlongs (T) 3+ Arlington Park 5:00 PM
7/11/2009 Royal Heroine Mile S. II 1 Mile (T) 3+ Hollywood Park 7:00 PM
7/11/2009 Hollywood Gold Cup I 10 Furlongs 3+ Hollywood Park 7:00 PM

7/18/2009 Jaipur S. III 6 Furlongs (T) 3+ Belmont Park 4:00 PM
7/18/2009 Robert G. Dick Memorial S. III 11 Furlongs (T) 3+ Delaware Park
7/18/2009 Delaware Oaks II 8.5 Furlongs 3 Delaware Park 4:00 PM
7/18/2009 Arlington Oaks III 9 Furlongs 3 Arlington Park 5:00 PM
7/18/2009 Virginia Derby II 10 Furlongs (T) 3 Colonial Downs 5:00
7/18/2009 Virginia Oaks III 9 Furlongs (T) 3 Colonial Downs 5:00
7/18/2009 Swaps S. II 9 Furlongs 3 Hollywood Park 7:00 PM
7/18/2009 A Gleam H. II 7 Furlongs 3+ Hollywood Park 7:00 PM

7/25/2009 Coaching Club American Oaks I 10 Furlongs 3 Belmont Park 4:00
7/25/2009 Eddie Read H. I 9 Furlongs (T) 3+ Del Mar 7:00 PM

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Old 06-23-2009, 09:05 AM
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Ok Then per Steve's recommendation 100 bucks to the charity of the winners choice.
The loser should also have to "wear" the humiliating avatar of the winner's choice for 60 days after the contest ends.

Civility and $100 donations are nice, but I was there on Father's Day. Things were said. Reputations were damaged. Abilities were called into question. I saw one man remove his glove and slap another man across the face with it, demanding satisfaction.

If two men enter Thunderdome, only one should walk out unsullied.
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Old 06-23-2009, 09:54 AM
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The loser should also have to "wear" the humiliating avatar of the winner's choice for 60 days after the contest ends.

Civility and $100 donations are nice, but I was there on Father's Day. Things were said. Reputations were damaged. Abilities were called into question. I saw one man remove his glove and slap another man across the face with it, demanding satisfaction.

If two men enter Thunderdome, only one should walk out unsullied.
Enough. Mr ambassador of good will.
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Old 06-23-2009, 10:55 AM
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Enough. Mr ambassador of good will.
OK... OK... Just trying to spice things up for the rest of us. Why should you guys get to have all the fun? I thought the true purpose of these pissing contests was for the mob to have a good laugh.

And please don't call me "Mr. ambassador of good will," you of the mini-freakout and subsequent namecalling that got you onto the chopping block in the first place.

But all jokes and arrow slinging aside, I will be following along with your contest with interest. I think things like this are fun. I don't think there's any harm in a little friendly competition. It will sure beat the "happy birthday" threads and "so-and-so's my favorite horse because" debates.

May the best (or at least hottest) handicapper win!
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Old 06-25-2009, 04:33 PM
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Dow Closed at 8,472.40

Please post your picks by Noon Saturday. I'll keep a spreadsheet and post sometime Sunday... Good luck and I'm sure it'll be civil to the dismay of lots of DT'ers. The big question is will both of us elect to take the free square in the Mother Goose....
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Old 06-25-2009, 06:06 PM
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Dow Closed at 8,472.40

take the free square in the Mother Goose....
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Old 06-25-2009, 06:15 PM
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Does that mean you're not considering Zenyatta a free square? I'm tempted to just post now. . . have my picks already.
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