Imus fired why not Letterman

[Rupert Pupkin]

I think this whole thing was much ado about nothing. I think Palin is happy to put the focus on Letterman and take the focus off what a lousy job she did of raising her daughter (the one who got pregnant at 17).

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I think this whole thing was much ado about nothing. I think Palin is happy to put the focus on Letterman and take the focus off what a lousy job she did of raising her daughter (the one who got pregnant at 17).

I dont know... most high schoolers are having sex at 17. I was.. everyone I knew was... and it just got worse with kids younger than me as they got older. there is a big problem and MIDDLE school with kids having sex. Its not like all these parents did a lousy job raising their kids. Shoot, 17 year olds dont listen to there parents anyway!! You just have to hope they are making the right decisions and its important to talk about birth control cause no matter what you want to happen... sex is going to happen.

That could have been Palins problem... preaching abstinence is NEVER going to be the answer, cause kids could care less about that. Teaching safe sex and the dangers of unsafe sex is a MUCH better option...

But I have a hard time blaming Palin or calling her a bad parent because her 17 year old had sex. If that was the case there would be a very small amount of good parents out there.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

I dont know... most high schoolers are having sex at 17. I was.. everyone I knew was... and it just got worse with kids younger than me as they got older. there is a big problem and MIDDLE school with kids having sex. Its not like all these parents did a lousy job raising their kids. Shoot, 17 year olds dont listen to there parents anyway!! You just have to hope they are making the right decisions and its important to talk about birth control cause no matter what you want to happen... sex is going to happen.

That could have been Palins problem... preaching abstinence is NEVER going to be the answer, cause kids could care less about that. Teaching safe sex and the dangers of unsafe sex is a MUCH better option...

But I have a hard time blaming Palin or calling her a bad parent because her 17 year old had sex. If that was the case there would be a very small amount of good parents out there.

I agree with you but I have to hold Palin to a higher standard since she is preaching family values and running as a born-again Christian. I think if someone is a serious Christian, they have failed greatly as a parent if their 17 year old daughter gets pregnant.

[Honu]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I agree with you but I have to hold Palin to a higher standard since she is preaching family values and running as a born-again Christian. I think if someone is a serious Christian, they have failed greatly as a parent if their 17 year old daughter gets pregnant.

That is bullpucky and you know it , do you run around with blinkers on all day ????? Ah you must have been a virgin till you were what 25??? LOL You know Im just teasing you but come on dude everyone knows that preachers kids are the worst offenders of all , so lets not point fingers at what kids will do. Is not the agenda of almost every boy between the ages of 12 and 1000 to get laid? How do you think they get it done ???

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Honu

That is bullpucky and you know it , do you run around with blinkers on all day ????? Ah you must have been a virgin till you were what 25??? LOL You know Im just teasing you but come on dude everyone knows that preachers kids are the worst offenders of all , so lets not point fingers at what kids will do. Is not the agenda of almost every boy between the ages of 12 and 1000 to get laid? How do you think they get it done ???

I wasn't brought up as a Christian. I was not taught abstinence. But I'll tell you something that was drummed into my head from the time I was a little kid. The dangers of drugs and cigarettes were drummed into my head from the time I was 5 years old. And you know what, it worked. There was never any danger of me getting into drugs or cigarettes because it had been drummed into my head at a very early age that drugs and cigarettes were very dangerous.

[Honu]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I wasn't brought up as a Christian. I was not taught abstinence. But I'll tell you something that was drummed into my head from the time I was a little kid. The dangers of drugs and cigarettes were drummed into my head from the time I was 5 years old. And you know what, it worked. There was never any danger of me getting into drugs or cigarettes because it had been drummed into my head at a very early age that drugs and cigarettes were very dangerous.

My mom told me that horses would hurt me and you know what she was right , but it didnt stop me.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Honu

My mom told me that horses would hurt me and you know what she was right , but it didnt stop me.

i used to beg my mom to quit smoking. and then one day i started too. but i ended up quitting so it worked out i guess.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

I dont know... most high schoolers are having sex at 17. I was.. everyone I knew was... and it just got worse with kids younger than me as they got older. there is a big problem and MIDDLE school with kids having sex. Its not like all these parents did a lousy job raising their kids. Shoot, 17 year olds dont listen to there parents anyway!! You just have to hope they are making the right decisions and its important to talk about birth control cause no matter what you want to happen... sex is going to happen.

That could have been Palins problem... preaching abstinence is NEVER going to be the answer, cause kids could care less about that. Teaching safe sex and the dangers of unsafe sex is a MUCH better option...

But I have a hard time blaming Palin or calling her a bad parent because her 17 year old had sex. If that was the case there would be a very small amount of good parents out there.

I should say that I partially agree with you. I agree with you that tons of 17 year old girls are having sex. But I disagree that we have to accept this as something that is inevitable that can't be prevented. I think that if you teach your kids about the dangers of sex from the time they are very young and you absolutely stress the importance of abstinence, I think it is quite realistic to expect your kids to stay abstinent (at least while they are living in your house). Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying this is easy. I think this needs to be something that you constantly drum into your kids' heads from the time they are very young. If this is something that is important to you as a parent, then you need to make it a priority. It is something you would need to constantly talk to your kids about from the time they are very young.

[Scav]

How I have missed this thread?

[geeker2]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I should say that I partially agree with you. I agree with you that tons of 17 year old girls are having sex. But I disagree that we have to accept this as something that is inevitable that can't be prevented. I think that if you teach your kids about the dangers of sex from the time they are very young and you absolutely stress the importance of abstinence, I think it is quite realistic to exepct your kids to stay abstinent (at least while they are living in your house). Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying this is easy. I think this needs to be something that you constantly drum into your kid's heads from the time they are very young. If this is something that is important to you as a parent, then you need to make it a priority. It is something you would need to constantly talk to your kids about from the time they are very young.

KGB has started already

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I should say that I partially agree with you. I agree with you that tons of 17 year old girls are having sex. But I disagree that we have to accept this as something that is inevitable that can't be prevented. I think that if you teach your kids about the dangers of sex from the time they are very young and you absolutely stress the importance of abstinence, I think it is quite realistic to expect your kids to stay abstinent (at least while they are living in your house). Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying this is easy. I think this needs to be something that you constantly drum into your kids' heads from the time they are very young. If this is something that is important to you as a parent, then you need to make it a priority. It is something you would need to constantly talk to your kids about from the time they are very young.

Really in this day of age, you can do this with your daughter and then the time comes when she's 17, has a huge crush on a cute boy... He likes her too and says "I really love you".... and she knows all her friends are doing it so it doesnt seem as much of a big deal, and she feels "left out" in a strange way (that feeling does happen to teenage girls who are restraining). But the guy loves her so its okay! 10 years of preaching abstinence down the drain...

[Scav]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

I dont know... most high schoolers are having sex at 17. I was.. everyone I knew was... and it just got worse with kids younger than me as they got older. there is a big problem and MIDDLE school with kids having sex. Its not like all these parents did a lousy job raising their kids. Shoot, 17 year olds dont listen to there parents anyway!! You just have to hope they are making the right decisions and its important to talk about birth control cause no matter what you want to happen... sex is going to happen.

That could have been Palins problem... preaching abstinence is NEVER going to be the answer, cause kids could care less about that. Teaching safe sex and the dangers of unsafe sex is a MUCH better option...
But I have a hard time blaming Palin or calling her a bad parent because her 17 year old had sex. If that was the case there would be a very small amount of good parents out there.

Yep and Yep

It doesn't help much that clothing manufacturers have basically unleashed sex on every female. What I would give for 17 year old girls to look the way they look now when I was 17

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Scav

Yep and Yep

It doesn't help much that clothing manufacturers have basically unleashed sex on every female. What I would give for 17 year old girls to look the way they look now when I was 17

Very true.. if I ever have a daughter she's locked up in her cell.. I mean room with bars on the windows.. she can do college on the internet at home...

[Scav]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

Very true.. if I ever have a daughter she's locked up in her cell.. I mean room with bars on the windows.. she can do college on the internet at home...

I am not complaining, but it could get an adult in a little trouble

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

Very true.. if I ever have a daughter she's locked up in her cell.. I mean room with bars on the windows.. she can do college on the internet at home...

so glad i only had one daughter. but i told my kids all the dangers of unprotected sex, and all the responsibilities and consequences they would have to deal with if they engaged in it. i think too many parents just say 'don't do it'-admirable, but short sighted. why shouldn't they do it? just saying you'll catch something or you could get pregnant isn't enough. besides, what kid doesn't think they aren't bullet proof? pregnancy is temporary, that kid is permanent. i told them that i'm sure their future (hopefully far away) offspring would rather be raised by an employed adult, not a still immature teen.
i told the two boys that girls are sneaky and conniving, and are to be avoided-but i said the same to my daughter about guys. whether it worked or not i can't say for absolute certainty-but i'm not a grandma either...

the best thing i think that happened to my youngest is his best friend and g/f got pregnant. he's seeing first hand what is going on with that kid-he doesn't like it, and sees that-gasp-mom was right about it being a life changing event.