Imus fired why not Letterman

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by Danzig

absolutely not.

perhaps palin should have spent more time with her daughters and less time on her political career, then they wouldn't be fodder for jokes right now.

how do you define more time? she was a governor of a state , in a dual income family , what did you want her to do stay home and bake chocolate chip cookies? didn't women of yesterday fight so that the Sarah palin's of the world and the Hillary Clintons of the world could someday live out their dreams and run for and get elected to some of the highest offices in the country?

look at how some of the kennedy's turned out , i assume Rose Kennedy ran her house and her kid's lives 24/7 ---- didn't some of them get into trouble over the years??? Spending more time doesn't always lead to less trouble . See Nancy Reagan too!

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by gales0678

how do you define more time? she was a governor of a state , in a dual income family , what did you want her to do stay home and bake chocolate chip cookies? didn't women of yesterday fight so that the Sarah palin's of the world and the Hillary Clintons of the world could someday live out their dreams and run for and get elected to some of the highest offices in the country?

look at how some of the kennedy's turned out , i assume Rose Kennedy ran her house and her kid's lives 24/7 ---- didn't some of them get into trouble over the years??? Spending more time doesn't always lead to less trouble

i'm old fashioned in the sense that you if you choose to have a family, that family should come first. palin could run for gov, seek higher office, after her kids were older. i've worked since my kids were little, but they never spent time in day care or with a nanny-and i was home every night. the lack of parenting these days imo is the #1 reason for the huge spikes in teen pregnancy.
wonderful-she's running the state, who's running the house? and yes, sometimes kids still run into trouble regardless of a parents' best efforts-but having a mother on the run for months at a time while running for vp, and thrusting young kids into the limelight and dog eat dog world of politics can't possibly be in the best interests of those kids.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i'm old fashioned in the sense that you if you choose to have a family, that family should come first. palin could run for gov, seek higher office, after her kids were older. i've worked since my kids were little, but they never spent time in day care or with a nanny-and i was home every night. the lack of parenting these days imo is the #1 reason for the huge spikes in teen pregnancy.
wonderful-she's running the state, who's running the house? and yes, sometimes kids still run into trouble regardless of a parents' best efforts-but having a mother on the run for months at a time while running for vp, and thrusting young kids into the limelight and dog eat dog world of politics can't possibly be in the best interests of those kids.

looks like the young ms clinton turned out alright with mommy and daddy both burning the mid night oil - one for the state and the other for the law firm

[the_fat_man]

This is a perfect example of why most of the world thinks Americans are IDIOTS (among other things).

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i'm old fashioned in the sense that you if you choose to have a family, that family should come first. palin could run for gov, seek higher office, after her kids were older. i've worked since my kids were little, but they never spent time in day care or with a nanny-and i was home every night. the lack of parenting these days imo is the #1 reason for the huge spikes in teen pregnancy.
wonderful-she's running the state, who's running the house? and yes, sometimes kids still run into trouble regardless of a parents' best efforts-but having a mother on the run for months at a time while running for vp, and thrusting young kids into the limelight and dog eat dog world of politics can't possibly be in the best interests of those kids.

old fashion does not cut it anymore , i wish it did, but , more and more women are in the workplace - they are mothers and they are going to work 80+ hrs a week once they reach high levels in corporations and gov't - that's what it takes in these types of jobs to make it - total dedication to the job , there is no shortcut , no sunday's off , it's 24/7 - that's the way the world works today if you want a high level job at the corporate or gov't level ---there are no more 9 to 5's

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by gales0678

old fashion does not cut it anymore , i wish it did, but , more and more women are in the workplace - they are mothers and they are going to work 80+ hrs a week once they reach high levels in corporations and gov't - that's what it takes in these types of jobs to make it - total dedication to the job , there is no shortcut , no sunday's off , it's 24/7 - that's the way the world works today if you want a high level job at the corporate or gov't level ---there are no more 9 to 5's

and it's my contention that while women are 'having it all', their family-mostly the kids, are paying the price.

[Danzig]

sarah has accepted letterman's apology that he offered last night:


Sarah Palin has accepted comedian David Letterman’s apology made during Monday night’s broadcast of “The Late Show” for crude jokes made about her and her teen daughters last week.

In a statement to FOXNews.com early Tuesday, the Alaska governor said, "Of course it's accepted on behalf of young women, like my daughters, who hope men who 'joke' about public displays of sexual exploitation of girls will soon evolve."

"Letterman certainly has the right to 'joke' about whatever he wants to, and thankfully we have the right to express our reaction," Palin said. "This is all thanks to our U.S. Military women and men putting their lives on the line for us to secure America's Right to Free Speech - in this case, may that right be used to promote equality and respect."

[Danzig]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090616/...n_legal_fees_1

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by Danzig

and it's my contention that while women are 'having it all', their family-mostly the kids, are paying the price.

so what's the solution? should we go back to the 50's?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by gales0678

so what's the solution? should we go back to the 50's?

not necessarily. but i do think our society is going to encounter only further problems because of the disintegration of our families, and because of children being treated as mom/dads best friend instead of being treated as the child. too many parents are exhausted at days end, and would rather give in to little johnny than do what's right. it's why schools are having the discipline problems they are having....
at any rate, not all sarahs fault-but still a serious issue.

[Honu]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i'm old fashioned in the sense that you if you choose to have a family, that family should come first. palin could run for gov, seek higher office, after her kids were older. i've worked since my kids were little, but they never spent time in day care or with a nanny-and i was home every night. the lack of parenting these days imo is the #1 reason for the huge spikes in teen pregnancy.
wonderful-she's running the state, who's running the house? and yes, sometimes kids still run into trouble regardless of a parents' best efforts-but having a mother on the run for months at a time while running for vp, and thrusting young kids into the limelight and dog eat dog world of politics can't possibly be in the best interests of those kids.

LOL your funny , my mom got preggo at 17 in the early 60's , her mom didnt work , she never spent a day at the babysitter or anywhere else , went to church every Sunday , was an A student and somehow and I dont know how managed to get knocked up. Boys and girls will do what they want when they are out of your sight , I think its most likely you never did anything that your parents didnt like when they werent around , you little angel you .

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Honu

LOL your funny , my mom got preggo at 17 in the early 60's , her mom didnt work , she never spent a day at the babysitter or anywhere else , went to church every Sunday , was an A student and somehow and I dont know how managed to get knocked up. Boys and girls will do what they want when they are out of your sight , I think its most likely you never did anything that your parents didnt like when they werent around , you little angel you .

i LOVE when people give an example of one who doesn't fit a scenario as being proof that the scenario as a whole is incorrect.

as for the four of us kids, none of us got knocked up, had kids out of wedlock, etc. weren't angels by any means...


my kids aren't angels either-and i've got two out and one to go. no kiddies running around as yet.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i LOVE when people give an example of one who doesn't fit a scenario as being proof that the scenario as a whole is incorrect.

as for the four of us kids, none of us got knocked up, had kids out of wedlock, etc. weren't angels by any means...


my kids aren't angels either-and i've got two out and one to go. no kiddies running around as yet.

thats not really a bad thing and some of us have no other option!

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

thats not really a bad thing and some of us have no other option!

i don't think it's necessarily a bad thing, and i understand about no other option. what i should have written is having kids 'without a commitment'. the children should always be FIRST when the decision is made to have them. too often people only think of themselves when they say they want a child-they don't think about what's best for the child they are bringing into the world.

[Honu]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i LOVE when people give an example of one who doesn't fit a scenario as being proof that the scenario as a whole is incorrect.

as for the four of us kids, none of us got knocked up, had kids out of wedlock, etc. weren't angels by any means...


my kids aren't angels either-and i've got two out and one to go. no kiddies running around as yet.

I love when people assume someone didnt raise their kids right because one of them got into"trouble".

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Honu

I love when people assume someone didnt raise their kids right because one of them got into"trouble".

i didn't say that either. i said that sometimes you can do everything right and they still do the wrong thing.

[Honu]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i didn't say that either. i said that sometimes you can do everything right and they still do the wrong thing.

You pretty much said that because she was in politics and not at home taking care of her kids that her daughter became preggo......