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Old 06-15-2009, 12:04 PM
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gales the one sport where a single player has the LEAST amount of control over his teams destiny is baseball. A batter is one in a nine player lineup. A starter only pitches every 4th or 5th day. A closer is only useful when his team hands him a lead. Reggie certainly contributed to those teams but they had a lot of other great players surrounding him. After Reggie left the Yankees how did he fare in World series titles?
he didn't get it done , he was on those angel teams that lost in '83 and '86 in the ALCS - during the back 9 of his career!

but you would agree when he signed the big $$$$ in the prime of his career in NY he was a difference maker - when the big light was on , he shined the most did the most , tom lasorda still gets sick to his stomach when they talk about game 6 of the 77 world series

When he went to NY he was already a proven winner in oak on those powerful teams .

Tex has a brief . brief postseason history - we don't know what he is going to do in the spotlight , under the gun , in these big spots - to pay him lottery $$$ and to not know how he is going to perform when the gun goes off in oct is a dicey proposition (if they even make it to oct)

One ex-yankee who put up big numbers during the regualr season in SD and NY - got his chance 1x as the $10mm man - well we all know that he went down in yankee lore as Mr May - he didn't get it done when he signed for the big $$$$ - then he went to Toronto later in his career , with the pressure off , not the key guy and did it , got the key hit/s when they needed it , it's a funny game chuck
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Old 06-15-2009, 01:30 PM
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he didn't get it done , he was on those angel teams that lost in '83 and '86 in the ALCS - during the back 9 of his career!

but you would agree when he signed the big $$$$ in the prime of his career in NY he was a difference maker - when the big light was on , he shined the most did the most , tom lasorda still gets sick to his stomach when they talk about game 6 of the 77 world series

When he went to NY he was already a proven winner in oak on those powerful teams .

Tex has a brief . brief postseason history - we don't know what he is going to do in the spotlight , under the gun , in these big spots - to pay him lottery $$$ and to not know how he is going to perform when the gun goes off in oct is a dicey proposition (if they even make it to oct)

One ex-yankee who put up big numbers during the regualr season in SD and NY - got his chance 1x as the $10mm man - well we all know that he went down in yankee lore as Mr May - he didn't get it done when he signed for the big $$$$ - then he went to Toronto later in his career , with the pressure off , not the key guy and did it , got the key hit/s when they needed it , it's a funny game chuck
Tex was a great signing. A player that is reaching his prime, that hits from both sides of the plate, has power, is very good in the field and doesnt cause trouble off the field. As good as Carlos beltran is he was overpaid based on a good postseason. The postseason is such a small sample that it is hard to truly know who is "clutch" versus the natural rhythm of baseball.

Tex was a rare yankee signing, a top player reaching his prime, not past it.
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Old 06-15-2009, 01:42 PM
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Tex was a great signing. A player that is reaching his prime, that hits from both sides of the plate, has power, is very good in the field and doesnt cause trouble off the field. As good as Carlos beltran is he was overpaid based on a good postseason. The postseason is such a small sample that it is hard to truly know who is "clutch" versus the natural rhythm of baseball.

Tex was a rare yankee signing, a top player reaching his prime, not past it.
Beltran was a hell of a player before that postseason. I think he is pretty good value at $17 million especially when you consider his defensive and baserunning abilities which are as good as they get in the league. 283 stolen bases to 38 caught stealing in his career is incredible.
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Old 06-15-2009, 01:48 PM
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Beltran was a hell of a player before that postseason. I think he is pretty good value at $17 million especially when you consider his defensive and baserunning abilities which are as good as they get in the league. 283 stolen bases to 38 caught stealing in his career is incredible.
he got more than he would have due to that unbelievable post season run. Remember he was hitting lasers all over the place and catching every ball hit. He is a very good player but you have to say that you expected a little more from him. gales would call him a failure because of the mets inability to win the WS.
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Old 06-15-2009, 01:51 PM
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he got more than he would have due to that unbelievable post season run. Remember he was hitting lasers all over the place and catching every ball hit. He is a very good player but you have to say that you expected a little more from him. gales would call him a failure because of the mets inability to win the WS.
In his free agent season he had 38 HRs and 42 SBs. When he had the great postseason I thought he'd go for $20 million plus per season but I think he actually went for fair value at $17 million for what he did in the prior four seasons. Getting 100+ runs and 100+ RBIs for four straight years is impressive with anybody but it is especially impressive with the Kansas City Royals.
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the nationals , nationals , you gotta be kidding right

my god what's next
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the nationals , nationals , you gotta be kidding right

my god what's next

96 more games, relax.
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Old 06-19-2009, 04:34 PM
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the nationals , nationals , you gotta be kidding right

my god what's next
@ home also..... Btw.. Did Dunn's HR land YET ?????
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